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Europe gave the world Enlightenment values and then performed a scientific experiment on itself to see what happens when you take those values to an extreme. Th
by ponker 6y ago
Europe gave the world Enlightenment values and then performed a scientific experiment on itself to see what happens when you take those values to an extreme. Thank you, Europe, for everything you gave to civilization and the concept of a rights-based government. Catch ya on the flip side.
- freeflight 6y agoThat's not really what happened, but I guess for some people it's easier to just completely forget the US's and UK's role in this whole mess [0] and how this current situation was already rather predictable nearly two decades ago [1]. It was such a predictable outcome that it triggered the largest global protest movement in human history. Plenty of people saw the long-term consequences of the US invading a Muslim country with heavily laden religious language coming; How the refugee waves would reignite violent European far-right nationalist sentiments, the occasional disgruntled Islamic extremist attack would pour additional fuel into the fire, a violent and hateful circle steadily escalating. By now we are pretty much exactly where Osama bin Laden wanted everybody to be: In an open and blatant "clash of civilizations" where US presidents can run on a platform of "Muslim bans" and over a billion people get constantly and casually generalized as being some kind of uncivilized subhumans because of their religion. [0] https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2015/9/9/the-iraq-war-the-root-of-europes-refugee-crisis https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2015/9/9/the-iraq-war-the... [1] https://www.csmonitor.com/2001/0919/p12s2-woeu.html https://www.csmonitor.com/2001/0919/p12s2-woeu.html
- ponker 6y agoYou don’t have to be an uncivilized subhuman to be incompatible with Western liberal democracy.