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Is there any evidence for Joe Biden's cognitive decline besides Trump saying it? Donald Trump says a lot of things and has admitted he'll lie when he thinks it

Is there any evidence for Joe Biden's cognitive decline besides Trump saying it? Donald Trump says a lot of things and has admitted he'll lie when he thinks it helps him. Is the New York Post story the Hunter Biden laptop story? I've seen plenty of reporting on it and the details seem pretty sketchy.

richardARPANET 6y ago
1. https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1322674362613293056 https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1322674362613293056 2. https://twitter.com/Defend_Trump/status/1322512161969758209 https://twitter.com/Defend_Trump/status/1322512161969758209 3. https://twitter.com/HawgGnarly/status/1320952391794003968 https://twitter.com/HawgGnarly/status/1320952391794003968 There's literally dozens of videos of him slurring out words that don't exist.
- lowercase1 6y ago
  Biden is a studderer and that can cause merged and slurred words.
  - richardARPANET 6y ago
    No, that is fake news from the MSM. Go and watch all his old speeches on YouTube. No slurring at all. He is deep in mental decline, unfortunately.
    - lowercase1 6y ago
      Planned from 2010? Give me a break. https://www.nais.org/magazine/independent-school/spring-2010/joe-biden-reveals-childhood-stuttering-at-lab-scho/ https://www.nais.org/magazine/independent-school/spring-2010... And nobody has contradicted the story? C'mon.
    - callinOutLiars 6y ago
      Trump is deep in mental decline.
  - rutledge87 6y ago
    You misspelled a hateful, discriminatory word. Maybe you could do the world a favor by sticking to facts and policies, not people's appearance and attributes?
- genericone 6y ago
  WashingtonPost does a good job of listing out some of the major ones: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/12/its-fair-speculate-whether-biden-is-mentally-fit-be-president/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/12/its-fair-...
  - paxswill 6y ago
    That’s an opinion piece, not from the Post’s reporting. It’s also from a commentator biased (it is the opinion section) for Trump (https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/marc-a-thiessen/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/marc-a-thiessen/).
- yongjik 6y ago
  It's telling that the first two videos are 5 seconds long and barely contain a full sentence. Couldn't find a, let's say, 30-second clip where Biden clearly talks nonsense?
- fredophile 6y ago
  There are also plenty of times when Trump has slurred his words in speeches. I've also said things that don't make sense. Sometimes I change my mind about what I'm going to say in the middle of saying it. I'm sure this sort of thing happens to lots of people. Lucky for me I'm not talking in front of cameras so people can collect every time I've misspoken.
  - redis_mlc 6y ago
    Serious question. Why are you apologizing for Biden? Are you related? Is he your personal hero? Do you need a certified medical evaluation?
    - fredophile 6y ago
      There are people I'd rather see as President but given the two choices Biden is easily my preferred candidate. I'd also like to see political discussion focused more on substantial issues. I also dislike it when people attack one candidate for something while ignoring their preferred choice doing the same thing. Do you honestly believe that the reasons you asked about are the only reasons someone would support Joe Biden over Donald Trump? I'm not a fan of Trump but I certainly don't think everyone who supports him does it because they're either crazy or family.
      - redis_mlc 6y ago
        You present several false equivalences, that all boil down to this. Nominating, or voting, for somebody who literally doesn't know where he is is absurd. Regarding China, as a builder, Trump has lots of reasons to have accounts there. The Biden family, especially Hunter, has none. It's fascinating to see the lack of critical thinking on the left. I guess it really is "Never Trump" and TDS.
zepto 6y ago
It’s easy to Google Biden’s cognitive decline and find some worrying videos. Also, it wasn’t Trump who started saying it - it was democratic operatives in 2019. I hope he wins, because Trump is fundamentally unfit to be president, but I am worried about cognitive decline nonetheless. Edited: removed incorrect reference to Clinton campaign from 2016.
- dragonwriter 6y ago
  > It’s easy to Google Biden’s cognitive decline and find some worrying videos. Sure, I can find videos of Biden being a gaffe-prone stutterer probably that are older than the internet, certainly I've seen Biden doing that since before his first Presidential campaign, and it's not something that helps himmon the campaign trail. But it's not evidence of cognitive decline, either. > Also, it wasn’t Trump who started saying it - it was Hilary Clinton’s team when Biden was in the primaries in 2016. Biden didn't run for anything in 2016 and so wasn't in any primaries that cycle, so that's obviously false.
  - zepto 6y ago
    https://theintercept.com/2020/03/09/it-was-democrats-and-their-media-allies-who-impugned-bidens-cognitive-fitness-yet-now-feign-outrage/?comments=1&menu=1 https://theintercept.com/2020/03/09/it-was-democrats-and-the... You are correct - I was wrong about the Clinton team in 2016. It was in fact the democratic party in 2019. As documented in the link. You can deny it or call it just ‘gaffes’, if you like, but people should watch the (mainstream - not YouTube fakes) videos for themselves. Either way it’s not a rumor Trump started, and there is plenty of evidence for people to consider.
    - dragonwriter 6y ago
      > It was in fact the democratic party in 2019. As documented in the link. Well, sure, it's clear that that, after repeatedly asserting that the Trump attack is true without evidence, that's clearly the narrative about the Trump attack's origin that Intercept article, but none of their supposed examples actually use anything like the line of attack they try furiously to associate them with. Even as “decide on the narrative and then see why evidence we can try to use to sell it” articles go, that’s pretty weak tea.
m0zg 6y ago
Not if you're wilfully blind. If you aren't, it's enough to just watch some of his videos from as little as 2-3 years ago, and compare them to today. Dude is out to lunch completely. "Stutterer" narrative doesn't hold any water when he was a pretty good public speaker just 3 years ago, and now he looks like an angry and confused old man all the time. C'mon, man!
benmmurphy 6y ago
Before Biden became the Democratic nominee there were concerns about his cognitive decline. For example the young Turks were claiming he was demented and was a bad choice. However, when he won his nomination this all got conveniently memory holed. https://www.newsbreak.com/news/1522263069032/young-turks-founder-cenk-uygur-claims-biden-has-some-sort-of-dementia https://www.newsbreak.com/news/1522263069032/young-turks-fou...
redis_mlc 6y ago
So let me get this straight. You tried to refute two widely-reported statements without doing any research at all. I guess this illustrates my point. Reporters widely discussed that Biden was a bad candidate because of his memory lapses starting around 2018, then dropped the issue once he became the nominee. (Glenn Greenwald on Joe Rogan's podcast last week.) The Democrats nominated a candiate incapable of leading the free world. Let that sink in for a moment. Joe Rogan Experience #1556 - Glenn Greenwald - Biden @51:00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0rcLsoIKgA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0rcLsoIKgA The Secret Service has confirmed various meeting times from the laptops, and the Biden family hasn't denied the laptops and files are genuine. (NTD/Epoch Times Youtube channels.) And that nominee can be blackmailed by the CCP. Anyway, boy are you going to be disappointed in a few hours!

richardARPANET 6y ago

1. https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1322674362613293056 https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1322674362613293056 2. https://twitter.com/Defend_Trump/status/1322512161969758209 https://twitter.com/Defend_Trump/status/1322512161969758209 3. https://twitter.com/HawgGnarly/status/1320952391794003968 https://twitter.com/HawgGnarly/status/1320952391794003968 There's literally dozens of videos of him slurring out words that don't exist.

lowercase1 6y ago
Biden is a studderer and that can cause merged and slurred words.
- richardARPANET 6y ago
  No, that is fake news from the MSM. Go and watch all his old speeches on YouTube. No slurring at all. He is deep in mental decline, unfortunately.
  - lowercase1 6y ago
    Planned from 2010? Give me a break. https://www.nais.org/magazine/independent-school/spring-2010/joe-biden-reveals-childhood-stuttering-at-lab-scho/ https://www.nais.org/magazine/independent-school/spring-2010... And nobody has contradicted the story? C'mon.
  - callinOutLiars 6y ago
    Trump is deep in mental decline.
- rutledge87 6y ago
  You misspelled a hateful, discriminatory word. Maybe you could do the world a favor by sticking to facts and policies, not people's appearance and attributes?
genericone 6y ago
WashingtonPost does a good job of listing out some of the major ones: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/12/its-fair-speculate-whether-biden-is-mentally-fit-be-president/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/12/its-fair-...
- paxswill 6y ago
  That’s an opinion piece, not from the Post’s reporting. It’s also from a commentator biased (it is the opinion section) for Trump (https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/marc-a-thiessen/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/marc-a-thiessen/).
yongjik 6y ago
It's telling that the first two videos are 5 seconds long and barely contain a full sentence. Couldn't find a, let's say, 30-second clip where Biden clearly talks nonsense?
fredophile 6y ago
There are also plenty of times when Trump has slurred his words in speeches. I've also said things that don't make sense. Sometimes I change my mind about what I'm going to say in the middle of saying it. I'm sure this sort of thing happens to lots of people. Lucky for me I'm not talking in front of cameras so people can collect every time I've misspoken.
- redis_mlc 6y ago
  Serious question. Why are you apologizing for Biden? Are you related? Is he your personal hero? Do you need a certified medical evaluation?
  - fredophile 6y ago
    There are people I'd rather see as President but given the two choices Biden is easily my preferred candidate. I'd also like to see political discussion focused more on substantial issues. I also dislike it when people attack one candidate for something while ignoring their preferred choice doing the same thing. Do you honestly believe that the reasons you asked about are the only reasons someone would support Joe Biden over Donald Trump? I'm not a fan of Trump but I certainly don't think everyone who supports him does it because they're either crazy or family.
    - redis_mlc 6y ago
      You present several false equivalences, that all boil down to this. Nominating, or voting, for somebody who literally doesn't know where he is is absurd. Regarding China, as a builder, Trump has lots of reasons to have accounts there. The Biden family, especially Hunter, has none. It's fascinating to see the lack of critical thinking on the left. I guess it really is "Never Trump" and TDS.

zepto 6y ago

It’s easy to Google Biden’s cognitive decline and find some worrying videos. Also, it wasn’t Trump who started saying it - it was democratic operatives in 2019. I hope he wins, because Trump is fundamentally unfit to be president, but I am worried about cognitive decline nonetheless. Edited: removed incorrect reference to Clinton campaign from 2016.

dragonwriter 6y ago
> It’s easy to Google Biden’s cognitive decline and find some worrying videos. Sure, I can find videos of Biden being a gaffe-prone stutterer probably that are older than the internet, certainly I've seen Biden doing that since before his first Presidential campaign, and it's not something that helps himmon the campaign trail. But it's not evidence of cognitive decline, either. > Also, it wasn’t Trump who started saying it - it was Hilary Clinton’s team when Biden was in the primaries in 2016. Biden didn't run for anything in 2016 and so wasn't in any primaries that cycle, so that's obviously false.
- zepto 6y ago
  https://theintercept.com/2020/03/09/it-was-democrats-and-their-media-allies-who-impugned-bidens-cognitive-fitness-yet-now-feign-outrage/?comments=1&menu=1 https://theintercept.com/2020/03/09/it-was-democrats-and-the... You are correct - I was wrong about the Clinton team in 2016. It was in fact the democratic party in 2019. As documented in the link. You can deny it or call it just ‘gaffes’, if you like, but people should watch the (mainstream - not YouTube fakes) videos for themselves. Either way it’s not a rumor Trump started, and there is plenty of evidence for people to consider.
  - dragonwriter 6y ago
    > It was in fact the democratic party in 2019. As documented in the link. Well, sure, it's clear that that, after repeatedly asserting that the Trump attack is true without evidence, that's clearly the narrative about the Trump attack's origin that Intercept article, but none of their supposed examples actually use anything like the line of attack they try furiously to associate them with. Even as “decide on the narrative and then see why evidence we can try to use to sell it” articles go, that’s pretty weak tea.

m0zg 6y ago

Not if you're wilfully blind. If you aren't, it's enough to just watch some of his videos from as little as 2-3 years ago, and compare them to today. Dude is out to lunch completely. "Stutterer" narrative doesn't hold any water when he was a pretty good public speaker just 3 years ago, and now he looks like an angry and confused old man all the time. C'mon, man!

benmmurphy 6y ago

Before Biden became the Democratic nominee there were concerns about his cognitive decline. For example the young Turks were claiming he was demented and was a bad choice. However, when he won his nomination this all got conveniently memory holed. https://www.newsbreak.com/news/1522263069032/young-turks-founder-cenk-uygur-claims-biden-has-some-sort-of-dementia https://www.newsbreak.com/news/1522263069032/young-turks-fou...

redis_mlc 6y ago

So let me get this straight. You tried to refute two widely-reported statements without doing any research at all. I guess this illustrates my point. Reporters widely discussed that Biden was a bad candidate because of his memory lapses starting around 2018, then dropped the issue once he became the nominee. (Glenn Greenwald on Joe Rogan's podcast last week.) The Democrats nominated a candiate incapable of leading the free world. Let that sink in for a moment. Joe Rogan Experience #1556 - Glenn Greenwald - Biden @51:00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0rcLsoIKgA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0rcLsoIKgA The Secret Service has confirmed various meeting times from the laptops, and the Biden family hasn't denied the laptops and files are genuine. (NTD/Epoch Times Youtube channels.) And that nominee can be blackmailed by the CCP. Anyway, boy are you going to be disappointed in a few hours!