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Besides the bigger ecosystem, curious as to why you'd go with Vue over Svelte? I've used Vue for pet projects but Svelte a lot over the last 6-months and don't

Besides the bigger ecosystem, curious as to why you'd go with Vue over Svelte? I've used Vue for pet projects but Svelte a lot over the last 6-months and don't think I would reach for anything else but Svelte right now. (I'm sure that opinion will change over time, but between the speed of development, and the incredibly nice / fast applications I'm able to build, I've never felt more productive (on the frontend))

preommr 6y ago
I like vue a lot more. In regards to the ecosystem, tooling is much better for vue. In fact, given how similar react/vue/svelte are, the tooling makes a big difference. Other than that, I like that vue (ironically) has less magic than svelte. If I wanted to switch over to react, I could just use react+mobx for pretty much the same experience. Vue's reactivity is basically very simple observables that I can easily envision in my head. Even though it uses a dsl - there are like 6 directives that I have to remember that are pretty much common to any template engine (i.e. v-for, v-if, etc). Whereas, svelte has a lot more magical syntax that makes it perhaps more pleasant to program in, but not something I am willing to invest in until it becomes more mature. I use the object style for components and really like it because it makes things more explicit and clear. I know svelte is smaller and so it's more productive for smaller use cases, but in the long run, I like the more explicit nature for when I am switching between front-end and back-end. Also, vue is a lot easier to integrate incrementally since it does a fair amount of stuff during runtime in contrast to svelte which does the main work at compile time. The latter obviously makes it a little bit faster, but the web environment is slow enough that my other techniques (like lazy loading) are enough to cover for it.
- davidwparker 6y ago
  I've found Svelte's tooling to be great. Can you elaborate on what's lacking and what Vue provides that's better? I come from a Rails background, so I don't tend to find anything "magical". I guess to me, it's all pretty simple so long as you take the time to read how it all works. (I understand not everyone has time to do that). I'm not sure about the incremental stuff- it may be that I'm used to it going fast. You should also checkout the latest Svelte (not public yet) from Rich, it's able to automatically show updates after every save, with state being kept within the refresh.

preommr 6y ago

I like vue a lot more. In regards to the ecosystem, tooling is much better for vue. In fact, given how similar react/vue/svelte are, the tooling makes a big difference. Other than that, I like that vue (ironically) has less magic than svelte. If I wanted to switch over to react, I could just use react+mobx for pretty much the same experience. Vue's reactivity is basically very simple observables that I can easily envision in my head. Even though it uses a dsl - there are like 6 directives that I have to remember that are pretty much common to any template engine (i.e. v-for, v-if, etc). Whereas, svelte has a lot more magical syntax that makes it perhaps more pleasant to program in, but not something I am willing to invest in until it becomes more mature. I use the object style for components and really like it because it makes things more explicit and clear. I know svelte is smaller and so it's more productive for smaller use cases, but in the long run, I like the more explicit nature for when I am switching between front-end and back-end. Also, vue is a lot easier to integrate incrementally since it does a fair amount of stuff during runtime in contrast to svelte which does the main work at compile time. The latter obviously makes it a little bit faster, but the web environment is slow enough that my other techniques (like lazy loading) are enough to cover for it.

davidwparker 6y ago
I've found Svelte's tooling to be great. Can you elaborate on what's lacking and what Vue provides that's better? I come from a Rails background, so I don't tend to find anything "magical". I guess to me, it's all pretty simple so long as you take the time to read how it all works. (I understand not everyone has time to do that). I'm not sure about the incremental stuff- it may be that I'm used to it going fast. You should also checkout the latest Svelte (not public yet) from Rich, it's able to automatically show updates after every save, with state being kept within the refresh.