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does it cost money to throw starfish into the sea? I think OP was saying if you want to make a dent, it has to be available to those that need it, not just tho

does it cost money to throw starfish into the sea? I think OP was saying if you want to make a dent, it has to be available to those that need it, not just those that can afford it

callinOutLiars 6y ago
Why are you asking me? Why not ask OP why they made up a figure that isn’t in the actual post “$200+/mo service”? That is no where in the post OP is commenting on.
woofie11 6y ago
Typical cost of schools is $10,000 per year. If you're doing $200/month, it's pretty good! If you prove results, it's a question of figuring out how to work politics. But first you gotta prove results.
- AnimalMuppet 6y ago
  Right, but that implies that you can get the state (or at least the school district) to switch. If you can't, though, you have to make it something a parent can afford. And they don't get the $10000/year back if they don't send their child to public school.
  - woofie11 6y ago
    No, I think the first step to getting the state to switch is to demonstrate a proven model. Starting with something some parents or sponsors can afford is a reasonable starting point. If this works for affluent parents, it's not hard to get Gates or Schmidt or similar to drop $$$ for a pilot with less affluent students. Changing education systems is a long process, but simply saying anything without a payback for all students within a 12-24 month timeframe, although aligned with the values of tech, is not a helpful model in education. Policy decisions in education take 5-20 years to make, but they do get made. The slowness is a function of how long it takes to see impact (and not wanting to hurt students). If we could put all politics aside, the model would be: * Develop a model (1-4 years) * Pilot it (2-4 years) * Research it (2-4 years) * Scale it (many years) Simply saying we won't do #1 or #2 since it isn't #4 isn't productive.

does it cost money to throw starfish into the sea? I think OP was saying if you want to make a dent, it has to be available to those that need it, not just those that can afford it

callinOutLiars 6y ago

Why are you asking me? Why not ask OP why they made up a figure that isn’t in the actual post “$200+/mo service”? That is no where in the post OP is commenting on.

woofie11 6y ago

Typical cost of schools is $10,000 per year. If you're doing $200/month, it's pretty good! If you prove results, it's a question of figuring out how to work politics. But first you gotta prove results.

AnimalMuppet 6y ago
Right, but that implies that you can get the state (or at least the school district) to switch. If you can't, though, you have to make it something a parent can afford. And they don't get the $10000/year back if they don't send their child to public school.
- woofie11 6y ago
  No, I think the first step to getting the state to switch is to demonstrate a proven model. Starting with something some parents or sponsors can afford is a reasonable starting point. If this works for affluent parents, it's not hard to get Gates or Schmidt or similar to drop $$$ for a pilot with less affluent students. Changing education systems is a long process, but simply saying anything without a payback for all students within a 12-24 month timeframe, although aligned with the values of tech, is not a helpful model in education. Policy decisions in education take 5-20 years to make, but they do get made. The slowness is a function of how long it takes to see impact (and not wanting to hurt students). If we could put all politics aside, the model would be: * Develop a model (1-4 years) * Pilot it (2-4 years) * Research it (2-4 years) * Scale it (many years) Simply saying we won't do #1 or #2 since it isn't #4 isn't productive.