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You sound like the old man... An old man was walking along a beach after a storm. While walking he sees a little boy though starfish into the ocean. Old man:

You sound like the old man... An old man was walking along a beach after a storm. While walking he sees a little boy though starfish into the ocean. Old man: “Ay, boy! What are you doing?” Boy: “I’m throwing the starfish into the sea so they can go home” Old man (after looking at the thousands of starfish that washed up thanks to the storm): “Why? You can’t save them all!” Boy (picks one up and throws it into the sea without breaking eye contact with the old man): “I just saved that one” The old man was taken aback by the child’s moxie that he even started to through a few back himself as he continued his walk. After his walk, the old man and his wife go for breakfast with some friends. There, the old man tells them about the little boy and the starfish. Everyone at the table, and even a few tables away (the old man is loud you see), loved the story. In fact they loved it so much that it start to spread through town. By noon that day hundreds of people had join the boy on the beach throwing starfish into the sea. By sunset there were no starfish on the beach.

sharkmerry 6y ago
does it cost money to throw starfish into the sea? I think OP was saying if you want to make a dent, it has to be available to those that need it, not just those that can afford it
- callinOutLiars 6y ago
  Why are you asking me? Why not ask OP why they made up a figure that isn’t in the actual post “$200+/mo service”? That is no where in the post OP is commenting on.
- woofie11 6y ago
  Typical cost of schools is $10,000 per year. If you're doing $200/month, it's pretty good! If you prove results, it's a question of figuring out how to work politics. But first you gotta prove results.
  - AnimalMuppet 6y ago
    Right, but that implies that you can get the state (or at least the school district) to switch. If you can't, though, you have to make it something a parent can afford. And they don't get the $10000/year back if they don't send their child to public school.
    - woofie11 6y ago
      No, I think the first step to getting the state to switch is to demonstrate a proven model. Starting with something some parents or sponsors can afford is a reasonable starting point. If this works for affluent parents, it's not hard to get Gates or Schmidt or similar to drop $$$ for a pilot with less affluent students. Changing education systems is a long process, but simply saying anything without a payback for all students within a 12-24 month timeframe, although aligned with the values of tech, is not a helpful model in education. Policy decisions in education take 5-20 years to make, but they do get made. The slowness is a function of how long it takes to see impact (and not wanting to hurt students). If we could put all politics aside, the model would be: * Develop a model (1-4 years) * Pilot it (2-4 years) * Research it (2-4 years) * Scale it (many years) Simply saying we won't do #1 or #2 since it isn't #4 isn't productive.

sharkmerry 6y ago

does it cost money to throw starfish into the sea? I think OP was saying if you want to make a dent, it has to be available to those that need it, not just those that can afford it

callinOutLiars 6y ago
Why are you asking me? Why not ask OP why they made up a figure that isn’t in the actual post “$200+/mo service”? That is no where in the post OP is commenting on.
woofie11 6y ago
Typical cost of schools is $10,000 per year. If you're doing $200/month, it's pretty good! If you prove results, it's a question of figuring out how to work politics. But first you gotta prove results.
- AnimalMuppet 6y ago
  Right, but that implies that you can get the state (or at least the school district) to switch. If you can't, though, you have to make it something a parent can afford. And they don't get the $10000/year back if they don't send their child to public school.
  - woofie11 6y ago
    No, I think the first step to getting the state to switch is to demonstrate a proven model. Starting with something some parents or sponsors can afford is a reasonable starting point. If this works for affluent parents, it's not hard to get Gates or Schmidt or similar to drop $$$ for a pilot with less affluent students. Changing education systems is a long process, but simply saying anything without a payback for all students within a 12-24 month timeframe, although aligned with the values of tech, is not a helpful model in education. Policy decisions in education take 5-20 years to make, but they do get made. The slowness is a function of how long it takes to see impact (and not wanting to hurt students). If we could put all politics aside, the model would be: * Develop a model (1-4 years) * Pilot it (2-4 years) * Research it (2-4 years) * Scale it (many years) Simply saying we won't do #1 or #2 since it isn't #4 isn't productive.