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But with a significantly reduced phone experience. I see the benefit, but the phone isn’t anywhere near the quality of a high end android or iOS device in term

But with a significantly reduced phone experience. I see the benefit, but the phone isn’t anywhere near the quality of a high end android or iOS device in terms of hardware or general app availability. Termux is clearly provide the opposite to what you’re suggesting - having a terminal available without sacrificing everything else.

fsflover 6y ago
> in terms of hardware https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Frequently-Asked-Questions#14-do-the-specs-justify-paying-599-799-for-the-librem-5 https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Freque... Librem 5 has a number of features generally only found in high-end phones, such as USB 3, dual-role port, DisplayPort alt-mode, high resolution video out and a discrete audio DAC, but its CPU performance and its video processing capability are those of a low-spec phone from several years ago. For people who want to buy a phone that supports convergence or a specialized security/privacy phone, the price of the Librem 5 is very competitive with the other options on the market. > general app availability https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Frequently-Asked-Questions#32-why-buy-the-librem-5-when-there-are-no-apps-for-it https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Freque... There is are a huge number of existing desktop Linux applications that can be adapted [not rewritten!] to run inside Phosh.
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- breakfastduck 6y ago
  Literally from your own quote... >its CPU performance and its video processing capability are those of a low-spec phone from several years ago That's enough for me to decide the experience isn't on par with a flagship Android or iPhone - but that's not what it's trying to be. This isn't trying to be a phone - it's trying to be a mobile linux PC that you can also use as a phone and has the same form factor.
  - fsflover 6y ago
    Yes, this is all true. I did not try to say you were wrong. But I'm curious, what are you going to do with it? Why do you need the high-end performance? (It can even run 3D games: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_HXQJkWjUQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_HXQJkWjUQ)
    - breakfastduck 6y ago
      Apologies - didn't mean to seem argumentative. Having a high end CPU isn't just for performance right now, my main concern would be longevity of the device.
  - craftinator 6y ago
    > This isn't trying to be a phone - it's trying to be a mobile linux PC that you can also use as a phone and has the same form factor. You literally just described an Android phone to someone from 2006.
    - fsflover 6y ago
      Except Android never became what we expected from it. It restricts what you can do with it.
      - craftinator 6y ago
        Agreed. I think to a fairly tech literate person from the early 2000's it would look like an awesome Windows/Linux hybrid. To a sys admin from that time, it would look like a nasty, restrictive ball of crazy. I'm personally really interested in the librem phones because Id love to carry a fully functional Linux box in my pocket, something I could write shell scripts for and run them from simple GUIs.

fsflover 6y ago

> in terms of hardware https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Frequently-Asked-Questions#14-do-the-specs-justify-paying-599-799-for-the-librem-5 https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Freque... Librem 5 has a number of features generally only found in high-end phones, such as USB 3, dual-role port, DisplayPort alt-mode, high resolution video out and a discrete audio DAC, but its CPU performance and its video processing capability are those of a low-spec phone from several years ago. For people who want to buy a phone that supports convergence or a specialized security/privacy phone, the price of the Librem 5 is very competitive with the other options on the market. > general app availability https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Frequently-Asked-Questions#32-why-buy-the-librem-5-when-there-are-no-apps-for-it https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Freque... There is are a huge number of existing desktop Linux applications that can be adapted [not rewritten!] to run inside Phosh.

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breakfastduck 6y ago
Literally from your own quote... >its CPU performance and its video processing capability are those of a low-spec phone from several years ago That's enough for me to decide the experience isn't on par with a flagship Android or iPhone - but that's not what it's trying to be. This isn't trying to be a phone - it's trying to be a mobile linux PC that you can also use as a phone and has the same form factor.
- fsflover 6y ago
  Yes, this is all true. I did not try to say you were wrong. But I'm curious, what are you going to do with it? Why do you need the high-end performance? (It can even run 3D games: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_HXQJkWjUQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_HXQJkWjUQ)
  - breakfastduck 6y ago
    Apologies - didn't mean to seem argumentative. Having a high end CPU isn't just for performance right now, my main concern would be longevity of the device.
- craftinator 6y ago
  > This isn't trying to be a phone - it's trying to be a mobile linux PC that you can also use as a phone and has the same form factor. You literally just described an Android phone to someone from 2006.
  - fsflover 6y ago
    Except Android never became what we expected from it. It restricts what you can do with it.
    - craftinator 6y ago
      Agreed. I think to a fairly tech literate person from the early 2000's it would look like an awesome Windows/Linux hybrid. To a sys admin from that time, it would look like a nasty, restrictive ball of crazy. I'm personally really interested in the librem phones because Id love to carry a fully functional Linux box in my pocket, something I could write shell scripts for and run them from simple GUIs.