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I was planning on going down to the states (I'm living in BC Canada), the salaries down there are more than 2x what you can get here. It doesn't look like I'll

I was planning on going down to the states (I'm living in BC Canada), the salaries down there are more than 2x what you can get here. It doesn't look like I'll be able to do that now. With this said, this move by your current administration makes a lot of sense to me, there is an opportunity to grow the American middle class around knowledge work. The United States has the best training institutions and capital structures in the world. They have a healthy demographic profile (they are maintaining their population), there is no reason for them to spoil their own job market with injections of foreign labour. I see no reason for them not to train and hire their own citizens.

jjeaff 6y ago
I see some reasons. One is that foreign labor allows lower wages which can make american companies more competitive over foreign ones. Second, allowing foreign workers encourages jobs to stay here in the US where at least the wages will be taxed and a large portion of those salaries will be spent here in the U.S., thus further stimulating the economy. Alternatively,if those same jobs move overseas, we see none of the tax revenue and none of it being spent here.
- runawaybottle 6y ago
  Let’s see. We did the first experiment. I want to do this one too. We can’t just do one experiment and warn of other experiments. If we get a bigger home grown tech sector, then experiment two wins. Let’s get those Java oracle enterprise bootcamps going, I think we have enough need right here in America to fill those jobs. Plenty of Classic Lit majors ready to switch up. Oh, and for who pays the most taxes and contributes the most to the American economy, I just googled it, it turns out it’s Americans. So ya, let’s get them into these jobs. We can import the finest Java people to teach the bootcamps if necessary.
  - jjeaff 6y ago
    Are you somehow going to outlaw outsourcing? Because I think it is likely that everyone is going to just outsource the coding (at least in many cases) rather than wait for all those classic lit majors to get trained up.
chillacy 6y ago
Last I checked we’re partly growing our population with immigration, the birth rate is 1.7, below a replacement level of 2.1.

jjeaff 6y ago

I see some reasons. One is that foreign labor allows lower wages which can make american companies more competitive over foreign ones. Second, allowing foreign workers encourages jobs to stay here in the US where at least the wages will be taxed and a large portion of those salaries will be spent here in the U.S., thus further stimulating the economy. Alternatively,if those same jobs move overseas, we see none of the tax revenue and none of it being spent here.

runawaybottle 6y ago
Let’s see. We did the first experiment. I want to do this one too. We can’t just do one experiment and warn of other experiments. If we get a bigger home grown tech sector, then experiment two wins. Let’s get those Java oracle enterprise bootcamps going, I think we have enough need right here in America to fill those jobs. Plenty of Classic Lit majors ready to switch up. Oh, and for who pays the most taxes and contributes the most to the American economy, I just googled it, it turns out it’s Americans. So ya, let’s get them into these jobs. We can import the finest Java people to teach the bootcamps if necessary.
- jjeaff 6y ago
  Are you somehow going to outlaw outsourcing? Because I think it is likely that everyone is going to just outsource the coding (at least in many cases) rather than wait for all those classic lit majors to get trained up.

chillacy 6y ago

Last I checked we’re partly growing our population with immigration, the birth rate is 1.7, below a replacement level of 2.1.