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So, does that mean 95% of internet users are facing even worse quality of service? or does it mean that given a very small number of participants so far, starli

by vaidhy 6y ago

So, does that mean 95% of internet users are facing even worse quality of service? or does it mean that given a very small number of participants so far, starlink is able to allocate more bandwidth to everyone? I remember reading an analysis here on a previous posting about starlink that under load, it is going to have pretty limited throughput (on top of higher latency). I do not see how that will get solved.

skavi 6y ago
> So, does that mean 95% of internet users are facing even worse quality of service? The first sentence of the article makes it clear the 95% figure is in reference to speed.
- Someone 6y ago
  …and only is reported by some users. Full sentence: “Some of the participants in SpaceX’s public Starlink beta are reporting internet speeds higher than 95 percent of U.S. internet users.”
  - jobigoud 6y ago
    So the same could be said of regular providers? "Some users report speeds higher than 95% of the other users"... This really needs more precise wording. What percentage of Starlink users (more than 5%?) and what's the speed difference?
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integer42 6y ago
When 4g/LTE was new, a coworker was an early adopter of whatever cellphone that was one of the first to support it. They were getting somewhere ~250 mbps on speed test. Fast forward to everyone having 4g phones, now in practice I see like 1-2% of those speeds typically. I have no idea the inner workings of starlink's protocol, but these aspects of wireless seem inevitable. once theres more simultaneous connections than in limited beta, each connection gets a smaller time slice or less frequency band, no? I do not see how its solved either. Currently I have rural DSL, approximately 3mbps down, 1 mbps up, but cheaper and reliable. The one person who has starlink beta is posting 200+ mbps screenshots but if everyone here connects I'm skeptical the result isn't slower, less reliable, more expensive than what's already here.
- kalleboo 6y ago
  I can see that just over a day. During off-peak hours, I've speedtested around 260 Mbit/s on LTE on my iPhone (it's 10:20 PM on a weekday and I just got 230 Mbit down[0]), but during peak hours (commute hours or lunch rush), it drops to like... 20 Mbit [0]https://www.speedtest.net/result/i/4226615772 https://www.speedtest.net/result/i/4226615772
- fomine3 6y ago
  IIRC initial LTE (UE category 3) only supports max 100Mbps (on spec) by 15MHz bandwidth. So I had measured max 50Mbps on 75Mbps (on spec, 10MHz) network.

by vaidhy 6y ago

skavi 6y ago

> So, does that mean 95% of internet users are facing even worse quality of service? The first sentence of the article makes it clear the 95% figure is in reference to speed.

Someone 6y ago
…and only is reported by some users. Full sentence: “Some of the participants in SpaceX’s public Starlink beta are reporting internet speeds higher than 95 percent of U.S. internet users.”
- jobigoud 6y ago
  So the same could be said of regular providers? "Some users report speeds higher than 95% of the other users"... This really needs more precise wording. What percentage of Starlink users (more than 5%?) and what's the speed difference?

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integer42 6y ago

When 4g/LTE was new, a coworker was an early adopter of whatever cellphone that was one of the first to support it. They were getting somewhere ~250 mbps on speed test. Fast forward to everyone having 4g phones, now in practice I see like 1-2% of those speeds typically. I have no idea the inner workings of starlink's protocol, but these aspects of wireless seem inevitable. once theres more simultaneous connections than in limited beta, each connection gets a smaller time slice or less frequency band, no? I do not see how its solved either. Currently I have rural DSL, approximately 3mbps down, 1 mbps up, but cheaper and reliable. The one person who has starlink beta is posting 200+ mbps screenshots but if everyone here connects I'm skeptical the result isn't slower, less reliable, more expensive than what's already here.

kalleboo 6y ago
I can see that just over a day. During off-peak hours, I've speedtested around 260 Mbit/s on LTE on my iPhone (it's 10:20 PM on a weekday and I just got 230 Mbit down[0]), but during peak hours (commute hours or lunch rush), it drops to like... 20 Mbit [0]https://www.speedtest.net/result/i/4226615772 https://www.speedtest.net/result/i/4226615772
fomine3 6y ago
IIRC initial LTE (UE category 3) only supports max 100Mbps (on spec) by 15MHz bandwidth. So I had measured max 50Mbps on 75Mbps (on spec, 10MHz) network.