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Like it or not, this is one of the reasons Apple's payment restrictions on the App Store are a good thing for consumers - they force all subscriptions to go thr
by hokumguru 6y ago
Like it or not, this is one of the reasons Apple's payment restrictions on the App Store are a good thing for consumers - they force all subscriptions to go through one easily accessible and cancellable portal.
- Ozzie_osman 6y agoI don't like it at all. They take a forced 30% cut to "protect" me from the bad guys?
- fiddlerwoaroof 6y agoFrom my perspective as a user, that 30% cut is the cost of getting my business. I already trust Apple for software update and other cloud storage and I’d prefer not to have to vet another entity for handling my payments.
- lotsofpulp 6y ago30% is cheaper than my time and inconvenience.
- NeutronStar 6y agoIs 30% of what you install or pay for fraudulent?
- julianlam 6y agoIt's also 10x the cut from a credit card processor... But sure, give away a significant part of your profit...
- maccard 6y agoBecause it's not just the cut from a credit card processor. It's also fraud handling, forex, invoicing, marketing, distribution, and fees for apple to operate the marketplace, plus their cut. I'm not going to defend 30% as the number, nor the _enforced_ 30% cut, but the 10x cut is not an apples to apples comparison. It's the equivalent of saying "just use OVH instead of AWS"
- cma 6y agoNow try canceling your idevice for a competitor and Apple will change your messages to white text on green so none of your friends can read them easily (due to the distribution of retinal cone cells).
- oarsinsync 6y ago> Apple will change your messages to white text on green so none of your friends can read them easily Messages always shows the received message as black text on a grey background. Sent messages can have blue or green backgrounds. Your Apple using friends continue to read your messages just fine. Re-reading messages they’ve sent you is a different matter. More surprising is that someone would complain about the SMS experience in 2020 in the context of smartphones, given the breadth of rich cross-platform alternatives that do not charge by the message / picture / audioclip.
- ocdtrekkie 6y agoI see nothing inherently wrong with providing the service, but Apple shouldn't be prohibiting alternatives, or apps clearly denoting that going through Apple costs more. People like the above might choose the Apple method, even if it costs more, for the added security layer, whereas someone might choose the lower price especially with an established and trusted party.
- jmnicolas 6y agoMy government takes more than that and just pretend to protect me from the bad guys.
- jzl 6y agoOh please. As if the App Store and app ecosystem aren't riddled with dark patterns? I can't even begin to count how many times the In-App Purchases preview section of a store listing has shown misleading, incomplete, or incorrect information, and it still has no enforced differentiation between IAP subscriptions and one-time IAPs, among many other issues. And I don't see Apple lifting a finger to improve it.
- m463 6y agoI had to call them up. Also, try to cancel the 50gb storage upgrade for 99 cents they automagically enable for no discernible reason (and it's not running out of storage space). Apparently there's some different process for that. Apple is funneling you into services, kicking and screaming. I know tim cook is a nice guy, but I suspect post-jobs apple has fewer appropriate checks and balances.