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I’ve been thinking that a dark pattern index would be really neat. Basically name and shame with deep dives. Each product is given a 1-10 value for assholery.

I’ve been thinking that a dark pattern index would be really neat. Basically name and shame with deep dives. Each product is given a 1-10 value for assholery. Would anyone else find that useful?

abnercoimbre 6y ago
Dark Patterns Org [0] has a dedicated Hall of Shame. I'm all for having several places to call these patterns out though. [0] https://darkpatterns.org/ https://darkpatterns.org/
- consumer451 6y ago
  I saw that site, but that’s the best effort so far, correct? I feel like this might be a Patreon-friendly thing.. funding the work to have it updated at least monthly with a new deep dive and rating. Having it updated regularly seems like an important component to me.
blahblaaa 6y ago
I’m sure there is a market but it’s not the folk that are not in computer software prob. I’m sure UI/UX Designers would love to get their hands on a list like this tho...and exploit it of course. I used to work at a hedge fund in Paris. One day I learned many of their clients were named as contributors to the genocide in rewanda in the 90s. I had a good friend in Switzerland who’s family escaped all that. Went to visit him one time and he insisted I sleep in his bed which was pretty much a board, while he slept on the floor. I had problems working the next day to say the least. I asked the other employees what they thought and the answer was, “if you don’t do it, someone else will”. I think there are always great ideas like the one you presented, but telling sure won’t do anything. You have to show. You have to make it obvious/more beneficial why someone should be interested in what you’re doing than just because it’s good to do. It’s literally the model, in my opinion, of sustainability. Make something that is beneficial and makes money. It’s a hard business case...but I’ve started and been successful with many companies and consulting projects that have achieved this...
- CamperBob2 6y ago
  Translation: GPT3 is fun

I’ve been thinking that a dark pattern index would be really neat. Basically name and shame with deep dives. Each product is given a 1-10 value for assholery. Would anyone else find that useful?

abnercoimbre 6y ago

Dark Patterns Org [0] has a dedicated Hall of Shame. I'm all for having several places to call these patterns out though. [0] https://darkpatterns.org/ https://darkpatterns.org/

consumer451 6y ago
I saw that site, but that’s the best effort so far, correct? I feel like this might be a Patreon-friendly thing.. funding the work to have it updated at least monthly with a new deep dive and rating. Having it updated regularly seems like an important component to me.

blahblaaa 6y ago

I’m sure there is a market but it’s not the folk that are not in computer software prob. I’m sure UI/UX Designers would love to get their hands on a list like this tho...and exploit it of course. I used to work at a hedge fund in Paris. One day I learned many of their clients were named as contributors to the genocide in rewanda in the 90s. I had a good friend in Switzerland who’s family escaped all that. Went to visit him one time and he insisted I sleep in his bed which was pretty much a board, while he slept on the floor. I had problems working the next day to say the least. I asked the other employees what they thought and the answer was, “if you don’t do it, someone else will”. I think there are always great ideas like the one you presented, but telling sure won’t do anything. You have to show. You have to make it obvious/more beneficial why someone should be interested in what you’re doing than just because it’s good to do. It’s literally the model, in my opinion, of sustainability. Make something that is beneficial and makes money. It’s a hard business case...but I’ve started and been successful with many companies and consulting projects that have achieved this...

CamperBob2 6y ago
Translation: GPT3 is fun