> I've had Apple lead me into the woods one too many times to really be willing to trust it. This reflects my experience as well. It's usually correct but when

> I've had Apple lead me into the woods one too many times to really be willing to trust it. This reflects my experience as well. It's usually correct but when it's wrong it's really wrong. In a thread about getting off Google, I'm also getting off Apple. I just finished killing iCloud and now have all my backups etc in OneDrive. At least with OneDrive, I have cross platform support and it's easy to sync and upload/download and I know where my data is. Apple, who knows. It took 2 days and 95% of that time was getting my data out of iCloud. Ultimately I want my device to basically be a dumb view into whatever accounts I have set up. Sick of the lock in and "ecosystem".