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I moved my many domains and many of my clients' domains and mail hosting to Zoho. I looked at Fastmail at the time, but there was one showstopper which I forge

by blunte 6y ago

I moved my many domains and many of my clients' domains and mail hosting to Zoho. I looked at Fastmail at the time, but there was one showstopper which I forget (and should revisit). That said, I have found Zoho to be very reliable and reasonably responsive to support issues. And their pricing is very reasonable, imo. For data, I use Tresorit. They have a great, if premium priced, alternative to gdrive, onedrive, etc. In my experience, Tresorit is more reliable in terms of successfully tracking and syncing terabytes of data (and many files). Plus their encryption story is believable, and storage is their primary job. They're not going to kick a client out without some conversation at least. I tried Nextcloud, but like OneDrive, it ultimately would develop sync issues with large volume and large numbers of files. I switched to Firefox a couple of years ago and found it mostly better than Chrome, especially regarding the Multi-Account Containers and the Facebook Jail. For chat, I used Wire for a long time until they changed their focus to corporate only and their home to the US. Now I'm back on Signal. It's not awesome, but it works fine.

floydnoel 6y ago
+1 for Zoho. I moved from GSuite for my domain’s email to Zoho and it was pretty easy and has been running well for over two years now.
- sigzero 6y ago
  How is the office suite from Zoho?
  - floydnoel 6y ago
    I've really only used their Mail application, and it seems perfectly fine to me!
_iyig 6y ago
>I looked at Fastmail at the time, but there was one showstopper which I forget (and should revisit). Was it Australia's anti-encryption law? https://www.itnews.com.au/news/fastmail-loses-customers-faces-calls-to-move-over-anti-encryption-laws-519783 https://www.itnews.com.au/news/fastmail-loses-customers-face...
- RonanTheGrey 6y ago
  I'm about 98% ready to leap off Gmail for good and I was going to consider Fastmail but unfortunately won't, due to this. The ones I'm considering are Microsoft 365, Protonmail, Tutanota and Posteo. Seems tough to pick between them. For me, the most important things are: * Catchall * Multiple custom domains (Protonmail charges for each additional?) * Desktop app support (Protonmail has the bridge but apparently it doesn't work all that well) * Easy (or at least reasonable) to import my email history from Gmail into the new provider either via Download->archive->Upload (Microsoft 365) or direct migration (Fastmail). Argh. This is an interesting nut to crack. I'd be willing to bet there's a SaaS space here for someone who can figure it out.
mxuribe 6y ago
I'm running a test with paid zoho currently (been going for a few months) to see if they're dependable. I bought a test domain name, and signed with their $1 USD/month plan...so far, quite good. I'm somewhat sold...the only reason i haven't taken the plunge yet is i've been distracted at work, so haven't planned out my migration. (i have so much email that i want to plan this delicately.)
- bleepblorp 6y ago
  I've been using paid Zoho mail for about eight months and have very few complaints. I haven't had any problems with outbound deliverability. However, their inbound post-delivery spam controls are overzealous and categorize almost all mail from new correspondents as spam. The only major problem with Zoho is that they host mail inside US jurisdiction so it's vulnerable to NSA abuses. Mailbox.org (based in Germany) is a possible alternative for people who want/need to keep their data further away from American commercial espionage operations.
  - mxuribe 6y ago
    Thanks very much; quite helpful! I was aware that my zoho mail is hosted in the U S. I did originally look at mailbox.org as well as as posteo and another European based provider but can't recall why I had discounted them. (None seemed horrible or anything like that; just zoho won it by minor margin.) The beauty of having my own domain is that if I'm unhappy, I can switch later on.
  - clairity 6y ago
    note that germany is part of the fourteen eyes, which means it might be easier for the US govt to breach an american’s privacy there than here in the US.

by blunte 6y ago

floydnoel 6y ago

+1 for Zoho. I moved from GSuite for my domain’s email to Zoho and it was pretty easy and has been running well for over two years now.

sigzero 6y ago
How is the office suite from Zoho?
- floydnoel 6y ago
  I've really only used their Mail application, and it seems perfectly fine to me!

_iyig 6y ago

>I looked at Fastmail at the time, but there was one showstopper which I forget (and should revisit). Was it Australia's anti-encryption law? https://www.itnews.com.au/news/fastmail-loses-customers-faces-calls-to-move-over-anti-encryption-laws-519783 https://www.itnews.com.au/news/fastmail-loses-customers-face...

RonanTheGrey 6y ago
I'm about 98% ready to leap off Gmail for good and I was going to consider Fastmail but unfortunately won't, due to this. The ones I'm considering are Microsoft 365, Protonmail, Tutanota and Posteo. Seems tough to pick between them. For me, the most important things are: * Catchall * Multiple custom domains (Protonmail charges for each additional?) * Desktop app support (Protonmail has the bridge but apparently it doesn't work all that well) * Easy (or at least reasonable) to import my email history from Gmail into the new provider either via Download->archive->Upload (Microsoft 365) or direct migration (Fastmail). Argh. This is an interesting nut to crack. I'd be willing to bet there's a SaaS space here for someone who can figure it out.

mxuribe 6y ago

I'm running a test with paid zoho currently (been going for a few months) to see if they're dependable. I bought a test domain name, and signed with their $1 USD/month plan...so far, quite good. I'm somewhat sold...the only reason i haven't taken the plunge yet is i've been distracted at work, so haven't planned out my migration. (i have so much email that i want to plan this delicately.)

bleepblorp 6y ago
I've been using paid Zoho mail for about eight months and have very few complaints. I haven't had any problems with outbound deliverability. However, their inbound post-delivery spam controls are overzealous and categorize almost all mail from new correspondents as spam. The only major problem with Zoho is that they host mail inside US jurisdiction so it's vulnerable to NSA abuses. Mailbox.org (based in Germany) is a possible alternative for people who want/need to keep their data further away from American commercial espionage operations.
- mxuribe 6y ago
  Thanks very much; quite helpful! I was aware that my zoho mail is hosted in the U S. I did originally look at mailbox.org as well as as posteo and another European based provider but can't recall why I had discounted them. (None seemed horrible or anything like that; just zoho won it by minor margin.) The beauty of having my own domain is that if I'm unhappy, I can switch later on.
- clairity 6y ago
  note that germany is part of the fourteen eyes, which means it might be easier for the US govt to breach an american’s privacy there than here in the US.