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Well, Apple is moving towards increasingly locked down systems. For example, it is very difficult if not impossible to install Linux on the most recent Macbooks
by redvenom 6y ago
Well, Apple is moving towards increasingly locked down systems. For example, it is very difficult if not impossible to install Linux on the most recent Macbooks. Previously when Apple stopped supporting a Mac, you could install Linux on it. I suspect with the ARM systems going forward, that will become even more difficult.
In other words, it is not just about better performance. It is also about Apple removing your freedoms with your own hardware in the name of 'security'. (I am not saying that there isn't increased security, but at what price?)
- jbverschoor 6y agoAt around $25 a month if your laptop lasts for 6 years
- qz2 6y agoI think I got 18 months out of my last two MacBooks before they gave out. Moved to windows desktops now. Much better value propositions, especially now as we don’t have to go out any more! :)
- jbverschoor 6y agoOuch.. I guess I was lucky.
- ownagefool 6y agoI'm on a late 2013 which I've only actually paid for a battery replacement on, so I can anecdote believe you. I'm not in love with macos though and there's more good options nowadays than there was in 2013.
- coldtea 6y agoOr the parent was unlucky - with some faulty production units, and the general case for most people, with hundreds of millions of units sold and the highest customer satisfaction ratings, is not that.
- gumby 6y agoNah, our household has a collection of macs none newer than 2017. My phone and iPad are from 2014 and my gf’s from 2015, and I have a watch 0. They all work fine and, except for the watch and geriatric macs, continue to get software updates. This will be a good excuse to start a mass upgrade but I won’t be an early adopter.
- qz2 6y agoNot at all. Some people, me included, look at hardware and it falls to bits. Really they're not particularly durable machines. Apple could do a lot better. Thinkpads are ok though. I haven't murdered one of them. Yet. I've tried and failed several times from coffee to catapulting them and they just eat my hamfistedness. I just bought a replacement iPad for my daughter for the one that we bought in 2013 though. Stuff can last a long time.
- mlindner 6y agoYou're very unlucky. I'm still using the same macbook pro I got in 2013.
- redvenom 6y agoI'm not a fan of these computations. If the computer functions, you should still be able to use it, regardless of how much existing use you get out of it.
- ogre_codes 6y agoI would certainly love if Apple made this device friendly to Linux use. The lack of Bootcamp support makes it seem unlikely, but I can hope. The fact that they made a point of demoing Linux in a VM is (very) slightly encouraging.
- mlindner 6y agoThe lack of Bootcamp is because Windows didn't want to support selling on Windows for ARM. https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/24/21302213/apple-silicon-mac-arm-windows-support-boot-camp https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/24/21302213/apple-silicon-ma... It's Microsoft's fault that they don't sell Windows for ARM so including Bootcamp would have no reason (as despite us power users, the primary use case for Bootcamp (it's even in the logo) is running Windows).
- mlindner 6y agoIf they want to lock down the system there's nothing about x86 that prevents them from doing so there. So that's a faulty argument.