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Einstein was a complete dick to her. He sent her a letter with a list of demands to stay married: http://www.openculture.com/2013/12/albert-einstein-imposes-o

by wdr1 6y ago

Einstein was a complete dick to her. He sent her a letter with a list of demands to stay married: http://www.openculture.com/2013/12/albert-einstein-imposes-on-his-first-wife-a-cruel-list-of-marital-demands.html http://www.openculture.com/2013/12/albert-einstein-imposes-o... A. You will make sure: 1. that my clothes and laundry are kept in good order; 2. that I will receive my three meals regularly in my room; 3. that my bedroom and study are kept neat, and especially that my desk is left for my use only. B. You will renounce all personal relations with me insofar as they are not completely necessary for social reasons. Specifically, You will forego: 1. my sitting at home with you; 2. my going out or travelling with you. C. You will obey the following points in your relations with me: 1. you will not expect any intimacy from me, nor will you reproach me in any way; 2. you will stop talking to me if I request it; 3. you will leave my bedroom or study immediately without protest if I request it. D. You will undertake not to belittle me in front of our children, either through words or behavior.

jelliclesfarm 6y ago
I think women from cultures where the fairer sex are considered historically ‘submissive’ would have dealt with this entirely differently. In other words..they wouldn’t have gotten mad, they’d have gotten even. I suspect Mileva was probably on the spectrum and/or didn’t have had a high social IQ. One needs high survival skills to be female. She wasn’t designed fo it. Women who are not surrounded/supported by their ‘sisterhood’ or female ‘tribe’ often get exploited by men. Female input and advice will save a lot of loss and damage. Because. Experience. Other women know. They share. They talk. They gossip. Guidance. There is an evolutionary advantage to gossip and chat. That’s how female wisdom goes viral. It worked in the pre social media era. I am always suspicious of men who try to isolate their girl from female company. That’s a warning sign. I have never been wrong w/this assessment. Children are a burden. Women should be taught not to have children without a supportive man who cannot be a father for life. Because it’s a responsibility for life. Single parenthood is not a badge of honor. We should not celebrate it as a society. Or rather, we should not glorify single parenthood. I suppose there is obviously something to celebrate about children. But the experience of creating something is different from the value of the creation. Would be parents should understand the gravity of the task and responsibility in front of them. Raising children is the most difficult thing to do .. even in partnerships never mind as a single parent. I honestly don’t understand why people are eager to have children. Sometimes more than they can afford wrt time and money and effort. It’s not for everyone. There is no shame or guilt in living and enjoying life as an individual. Had Mileva Einstein not had the parenting responsibility and burden, she would have blossomed as the scientist she was obviously meant to be...the female uterus is severely undervalued. As is the value of progeny.. by men.. it is the vessel for half their genetic material and their only way to leave a meaningful biological legacy. So until we can grow little humans in pods, women must make men pay their due for carrying their genetic material and delivering it as viable life forms or deny them the opportunity to leave behind a genetic legacy.
- disown 6y ago
  > I think women from cultures where the fairer sex are considered historically ‘submissive’ would have dealt with this entirely differently. It's pretty much all human culture. It's probably a trait inherited from our pre-human ancestors. After all, our closest primate, the chimps, also have male dominant social order. > Women who are not surrounded/supported by their ‘sisterhood’ or female ‘tribe’ often get exploited by men. Oh boy here we go again. Sure there are exploitation by men, but the vast majority of exploitation of women are by other women. There is no magical "sisterhood". > Experience. Other women know. They share. They talk. They gossip. Guidance. Or gossip, exclusion, rumors, destroying reputations, bullying, etc. Eating disorder, self-image issues, cutting, self-harm, etc are mostly female on female violence. > I am always suspicious of men who try to isolate their girl from female company. Female company? No. You should be suspicious of men or women who try to isolate a girl or a boy from their parents/siblings/friends. Most women recruited for prostitution, cults, MLMs, etc are by "female company". > Children are a burden. They are a responsibility. > the female uterus is severely undervalued. As opposed to the male uterus? > As is the value of progeny.. by men.. it is the vessel for half their genetic material and their only way to leave a meaningful biological legacy. Seems more like you are devaluing the value of men? > So until we can grow little humans in pods, women must make men pay their due for carrying their genetic material and delivering it as viable life forms or deny them the opportunity to leave behind a genetic legacy. You are essentially saying women's only value is procreation. So if we can grow little humans in a pod, wouldn't women have no value then? Also, men protect the women, provide shelter, food, etc. You make it seem like women do all the work. Stop basing your reality off of silly netflix series. Honestly, what's the difference between people like you and white supremacists. Just change race with gender and I don't see a difference. Of course this kind of flamewar and disinformation nonsense is welcomed all over social media.
  - jelliclesfarm 6y ago
    So you end this with calling me a white supremacist. You are correct. I will end this potential flame war by not engaging.
    - 6y ago

by wdr1 6y ago

jelliclesfarm 6y ago

I think women from cultures where the fairer sex are considered historically ‘submissive’ would have dealt with this entirely differently. In other words..they wouldn’t have gotten mad, they’d have gotten even. I suspect Mileva was probably on the spectrum and/or didn’t have had a high social IQ. One needs high survival skills to be female. She wasn’t designed fo it. Women who are not surrounded/supported by their ‘sisterhood’ or female ‘tribe’ often get exploited by men. Female input and advice will save a lot of loss and damage. Because. Experience. Other women know. They share. They talk. They gossip. Guidance. There is an evolutionary advantage to gossip and chat. That’s how female wisdom goes viral. It worked in the pre social media era. I am always suspicious of men who try to isolate their girl from female company. That’s a warning sign. I have never been wrong w/this assessment. Children are a burden. Women should be taught not to have children without a supportive man who cannot be a father for life. Because it’s a responsibility for life. Single parenthood is not a badge of honor. We should not celebrate it as a society. Or rather, we should not glorify single parenthood. I suppose there is obviously something to celebrate about children. But the experience of creating something is different from the value of the creation. Would be parents should understand the gravity of the task and responsibility in front of them. Raising children is the most difficult thing to do .. even in partnerships never mind as a single parent. I honestly don’t understand why people are eager to have children. Sometimes more than they can afford wrt time and money and effort. It’s not for everyone. There is no shame or guilt in living and enjoying life as an individual. Had Mileva Einstein not had the parenting responsibility and burden, she would have blossomed as the scientist she was obviously meant to be...the female uterus is severely undervalued. As is the value of progeny.. by men.. it is the vessel for half their genetic material and their only way to leave a meaningful biological legacy. So until we can grow little humans in pods, women must make men pay their due for carrying their genetic material and delivering it as viable life forms or deny them the opportunity to leave behind a genetic legacy.

disown 6y ago
> I think women from cultures where the fairer sex are considered historically ‘submissive’ would have dealt with this entirely differently. It's pretty much all human culture. It's probably a trait inherited from our pre-human ancestors. After all, our closest primate, the chimps, also have male dominant social order. > Women who are not surrounded/supported by their ‘sisterhood’ or female ‘tribe’ often get exploited by men. Oh boy here we go again. Sure there are exploitation by men, but the vast majority of exploitation of women are by other women. There is no magical "sisterhood". > Experience. Other women know. They share. They talk. They gossip. Guidance. Or gossip, exclusion, rumors, destroying reputations, bullying, etc. Eating disorder, self-image issues, cutting, self-harm, etc are mostly female on female violence. > I am always suspicious of men who try to isolate their girl from female company. Female company? No. You should be suspicious of men or women who try to isolate a girl or a boy from their parents/siblings/friends. Most women recruited for prostitution, cults, MLMs, etc are by "female company". > Children are a burden. They are a responsibility. > the female uterus is severely undervalued. As opposed to the male uterus? > As is the value of progeny.. by men.. it is the vessel for half their genetic material and their only way to leave a meaningful biological legacy. Seems more like you are devaluing the value of men? > So until we can grow little humans in pods, women must make men pay their due for carrying their genetic material and delivering it as viable life forms or deny them the opportunity to leave behind a genetic legacy. You are essentially saying women's only value is procreation. So if we can grow little humans in a pod, wouldn't women have no value then? Also, men protect the women, provide shelter, food, etc. You make it seem like women do all the work. Stop basing your reality off of silly netflix series. Honestly, what's the difference between people like you and white supremacists. Just change race with gender and I don't see a difference. Of course this kind of flamewar and disinformation nonsense is welcomed all over social media.
- jelliclesfarm 6y ago
  So you end this with calling me a white supremacist. You are correct. I will end this potential flame war by not engaging.
  - 6y ago