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Because Apple is switching to Arm for better performance?
by mlindner 6y ago
Because Apple is switching to Arm for better performance?
- 1_player 6y ago[benchmarks needed]
- jbverschoor 6y agoLook at the transition dev kit. Also, look at the intel’s iris vs apple’s gpu
- jeffbee 6y agoLook at what from the transition kit? The only thing available show it having single-core performance that would have been state-of-the-art ten years ago. Is there something newer and more impressive?
- neogodless 6y agoShouldn't you compare to Intel Xe for integrated graphics performance?
- jeffbee 6y agoNo, when you're trying to disrespect Intel it's customary to compare announced imaginary parts to obsolete Intel parts.
- mlindner 6y agoThey will come, when the computers are available. But Apple wouldn't invest in doing it at great expensive if it didn't produce a better more competitive product.
- redvenom 6y agoWell, Apple is moving towards increasingly locked down systems. For example, it is very difficult if not impossible to install Linux on the most recent Macbooks. Previously when Apple stopped supporting a Mac, you could install Linux on it. I suspect with the ARM systems going forward, that will become even more difficult. In other words, it is not just about better performance. It is also about Apple removing your freedoms with your own hardware in the name of 'security'. (I am not saying that there isn't increased security, but at what price?)
- jbverschoor 6y agoAt around $25 a month if your laptop lasts for 6 years
- qz2 6y agoI think I got 18 months out of my last two MacBooks before they gave out. Moved to windows desktops now. Much better value propositions, especially now as we don’t have to go out any more! :)
- jbverschoor 6y agoOuch.. I guess I was lucky.
- ownagefool 6y agoI'm on a late 2013 which I've only actually paid for a battery replacement on, so I can anecdote believe you. I'm not in love with macos though and there's more good options nowadays than there was in 2013.
- coldtea 6y agoOr the parent was unlucky - with some faulty production units, and the general case for most people, with hundreds of millions of units sold and the highest customer satisfaction ratings, is not that.
- gumby 6y agoNah, our household has a collection of macs none newer than 2017. My phone and iPad are from 2014 and my gf’s from 2015, and I have a watch 0. They all work fine and, except for the watch and geriatric macs, continue to get software updates. This will be a good excuse to start a mass upgrade but I won’t be an early adopter.
- qz2 6y agoNot at all. Some people, me included, look at hardware and it falls to bits. Really they're not particularly durable machines. Apple could do a lot better. Thinkpads are ok though. I haven't murdered one of them. Yet. I've tried and failed several times from coffee to catapulting them and they just eat my hamfistedness. I just bought a replacement iPad for my daughter for the one that we bought in 2013 though. Stuff can last a long time.
- Shivetya 6y agobetter performance only if your desired software runs on the new processor. if not then what do you have? I am a light weight user in the Mac world, browsing and some games. However the few games left after the Catalina change to drop 32 bit support are still important to me. One of the publishers has preemptively dropped support for Mac and its near impossible to tell if others will continue support into AS. I know, there is a crowd out there that loves to declare "you should not use your Mac for games" along with "Buy a system for games then". Well let me be blunt, if it cannot serve both purposes then it serves none which means leaving the platform behind. So I look at AS with excitement and trepidation all at the same time with the realization my current Mac may well be my last.
- gumby 6y agoDidn’t Wendker demo a video game running under emulation? That should work fine for your 64 bit games. And it’s not like your old hardware will suddenly stop working. If you want to place PS2 games you need an old PS2, and this is the same. Also, along the line of your old hardware still working: no need to upgrade any time soon.
- yurishimo 6y agoI’m hopeful we’ll see something similar to the move Steam has made for old Pc games. With a little love, devs can usually get an old Windows 95 game running as we’ve seen in the past few years. If the Apple silicon is powerful enough, it might not matter if there is a huge performance hit for the emulation. It’ll be an interesting next 5 years for sure.
- socialdemocrat 6y agoRosetta 2 translates x86 instructions to ARM and cache result. That translation seems quite good given that they demonstrated a complex 3D game running translated code on ARM hardware much weaker than what Apple will deliver in laptops. Honestly I think x86 games will run better on these ARM laptops. Keep in mind x86 on laptops don’t work great. Apple could outperform most of their x86 laptops with a passively cooled ARM tablet. An ARM laptop with active cooling will destroy their x86 lineup. Besides you also get the whole iOS games catalog now which is much larger than the macOS game selection.
- unicornporn 6y ago> Because Apple is switching to Arm for better performance? Because I wont be able to run Windows in Fusion without a very big performance hit.