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I don't get why people complain when China spies but when US does the exact same it seemingly doesn't matter. I don't condone spying at all just seems like hypo

by jjd33 6y ago

I don't get why people complain when China spies but when US does the exact same it seemingly doesn't matter. I don't condone spying at all just seems like hypocrisy.

draw_down 6y ago
? This is source code not spying
banachtarski 6y ago
Reverse engineering a published app isn't the same as "spying".
- colejohnson66 6y ago
  OP might be referencing how the linked repository’s README says TikTok is spyware
jzymbaluk 6y ago
it's blatant hypocrisy. Tiktok is not exceptional when it comes to social media networks, it's just that they are headquartered in China
- bassman9000 6y ago
  And China has laws that mandate all Chinese companies (meaning every company) must share every single bit of data, any time, with the authorities. Cynical alphanet references aside, you need a judge's order in the US. No hypocrisy.
wetpaws 6y ago
US spying on people does not automatically make China spying on people good.
LMYahooTFY 6y ago
I don't get what this comment is aimed at? The idea that US spying doesn't matter to anyone in the US is very out of touch, within the technical community and even outside of it. The way surveillance manifests in the US and China is also quite different, enough that it warrants comparing and contrasting those differences.
- jjd33 6y ago
  This was not to say "Private citizens think US spying is good" (even though you'd be surprised how many non technical people think so). If the US spies the government is justifying it for "security purposes" and as necessary. I was talking about the blatant hypocrisy with the likes of the US wanting to ban Tik Tok while Facebook does the exact same (and the US gov being sponsored by a Saudi Prince known for human right abuses on North Korean level).
twno1 6y ago
It's really matter because of this: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/14/zhenhua-data-full-list-leak-database-personal-details-millions-china-tech-company https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/14/zhenhua-data-f...

by jjd33 6y ago

I don't get why people complain when China spies but when US does the exact same it seemingly doesn't matter. I don't condone spying at all just seems like hypocrisy.

draw_down 6y ago

? This is source code not spying

banachtarski 6y ago

Reverse engineering a published app isn't the same as "spying".

colejohnson66 6y ago
OP might be referencing how the linked repository’s README says TikTok is spyware

jzymbaluk 6y ago

it's blatant hypocrisy. Tiktok is not exceptional when it comes to social media networks, it's just that they are headquartered in China

bassman9000 6y ago
And China has laws that mandate all Chinese companies (meaning every company) must share every single bit of data, any time, with the authorities. Cynical alphanet references aside, you need a judge's order in the US. No hypocrisy.

wetpaws 6y ago

US spying on people does not automatically make China spying on people good.

LMYahooTFY 6y ago

I don't get what this comment is aimed at? The idea that US spying doesn't matter to anyone in the US is very out of touch, within the technical community and even outside of it. The way surveillance manifests in the US and China is also quite different, enough that it warrants comparing and contrasting those differences.

jjd33 6y ago
This was not to say "Private citizens think US spying is good" (even though you'd be surprised how many non technical people think so). If the US spies the government is justifying it for "security purposes" and as necessary. I was talking about the blatant hypocrisy with the likes of the US wanting to ban Tik Tok while Facebook does the exact same (and the US gov being sponsored by a Saudi Prince known for human right abuses on North Korean level).

twno1 6y ago

It's really matter because of this: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/14/zhenhua-data-full-list-leak-database-personal-details-millions-china-tech-company https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/14/zhenhua-data-f...