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Definitely need to consider spikes in demand too. A perfect example of this was covid 19 supply shocks. Supply chains got a lot better at just in time delivery

Definitely need to consider spikes in demand too. A perfect example of this was covid 19 supply shocks. Supply chains got a lot better at just in time delivery and didn’t keep much back stock, but with covid this broke down when everyone went out shopping to stock up for lockdown and work from home. Edit: s/panic shopping/shopping/

shuntress 6y ago
It's not "panic shopping" if overnight I transition from eating half my meals at work to eating all my meals at home.
- throwaway1777 6y ago
  Ok, edited.
- bobthepanda 6y ago
  While this also happened, there was definitely some level of panic buying that happened in the initial stages, at least in the US. The toilet paper/paper towel shortage was pretty much driven by pure panic buying, and you had reports of crazy lines outside of big bulk supercenters like Costco.
  - mattmanser 6y ago
    I also disagree it was really panic buying. We were all being warned we might need to self-isolate for two weeks if we caught covid. So suddenly everyone needed 2 weeks of spare stuff, on top of their normal shop. Hence the sudden shortages. I found it quite insulting that the media decided to crow about panic buying, when we'd essentially been told to do it.
    - bobthepanda 6y ago
      No, people really did go overboard. Unless you are running a small orphanage no one needs a Costco cart stocked double high with only toilet paper. There were also a fair amount of people thinking they could be smart and hoarding to later price gouge, but this mostly fell apart and there were articles about how people were mad at Costco's policy of not allowing returns on toilet paper and paper towels.
      - mattmanser 6y ago
        I still disagree with you, there was a legitimate demand spike for more supermarket toilet paper. Working from home = more poos and wees at home. Less consumption of industrial deliveries of toilet paper to companies, much higher home consumption from super markets. So again, not a panic, but a legitimate, overnight, shift in toilet paper consumption habits that resulted in a long lasting shortage of toilet paper in the supermarket JIT supply system. They were not prepared for a jump of 50-100% more home toilet paper consumption. No panic, but a simple explanation of the shift in consumption from industrial, bulk deliveries of toilet paper to your company office, to buying more of your own at the supermarket. Yes, there were some opportunists and crazies with a shopping cart full, but they don't explain why it took months for shelves to finally get fully stocked.
- asalahli 6y ago
  It was panic shopping when people were hoarding flour and yeast though, for instance
  - mattmanser 6y ago
    No, people were bored, stuck at home and started trying home baking. It was doing the rounds on social media. So there was suddenly a massive demand for flour and yeast. No panic, just a simple fad that they couldn't supply enough to meet demand. I read that in the UK at least the actual problem was they had enough flour, but it was all in industrial bags and they did not have enough packaging to rebag it. Actually another victim of just-in-time supply lines, rather than any 'panic'.
    - rtkwe 6y ago
      The fad was also for sourdough bread which requires a lot of flour before you make any loaves and constantly to keep the starter alive.
  - hinkley 6y ago
    I understood why the rice sold out. I understood why the flour sold out. I understood why the beans sold out. What I don't understand is why the instant ramen sold out at the same time as the rice.
- hinkley 6y ago
  And half of your bathroom breaks...

shuntress 6y ago

It's not "panic shopping" if overnight I transition from eating half my meals at work to eating all my meals at home.

throwaway1777 6y ago
Ok, edited.
bobthepanda 6y ago
While this also happened, there was definitely some level of panic buying that happened in the initial stages, at least in the US. The toilet paper/paper towel shortage was pretty much driven by pure panic buying, and you had reports of crazy lines outside of big bulk supercenters like Costco.
- mattmanser 6y ago
  I also disagree it was really panic buying. We were all being warned we might need to self-isolate for two weeks if we caught covid. So suddenly everyone needed 2 weeks of spare stuff, on top of their normal shop. Hence the sudden shortages. I found it quite insulting that the media decided to crow about panic buying, when we'd essentially been told to do it.
  - bobthepanda 6y ago
    No, people really did go overboard. Unless you are running a small orphanage no one needs a Costco cart stocked double high with only toilet paper. There were also a fair amount of people thinking they could be smart and hoarding to later price gouge, but this mostly fell apart and there were articles about how people were mad at Costco's policy of not allowing returns on toilet paper and paper towels.
    - mattmanser 6y ago
      I still disagree with you, there was a legitimate demand spike for more supermarket toilet paper. Working from home = more poos and wees at home. Less consumption of industrial deliveries of toilet paper to companies, much higher home consumption from super markets. So again, not a panic, but a legitimate, overnight, shift in toilet paper consumption habits that resulted in a long lasting shortage of toilet paper in the supermarket JIT supply system. They were not prepared for a jump of 50-100% more home toilet paper consumption. No panic, but a simple explanation of the shift in consumption from industrial, bulk deliveries of toilet paper to your company office, to buying more of your own at the supermarket. Yes, there were some opportunists and crazies with a shopping cart full, but they don't explain why it took months for shelves to finally get fully stocked.
asalahli 6y ago
It was panic shopping when people were hoarding flour and yeast though, for instance
- mattmanser 6y ago
  No, people were bored, stuck at home and started trying home baking. It was doing the rounds on social media. So there was suddenly a massive demand for flour and yeast. No panic, just a simple fad that they couldn't supply enough to meet demand. I read that in the UK at least the actual problem was they had enough flour, but it was all in industrial bags and they did not have enough packaging to rebag it. Actually another victim of just-in-time supply lines, rather than any 'panic'.
  - rtkwe 6y ago
    The fad was also for sourdough bread which requires a lot of flour before you make any loaves and constantly to keep the starter alive.
- hinkley 6y ago
  I understood why the rice sold out. I understood why the flour sold out. I understood why the beans sold out. What I don't understand is why the instant ramen sold out at the same time as the rice.
hinkley 6y ago
And half of your bathroom breaks...