3 ms·

it's more likely an old keyboard is lying around. a Pi4 and cheap enclosure could then be picked up for half this price

deleted 6y ago
[deleted]
thinkmassive 6y ago
That's a pretty big exaggeration considering the 4GB Raspberry Pi 4B typically sells for $55-60. This adds a keyboard and case for $10-15 on top of that.
- 867-5309 6y ago
  > $55-60 let's allow a more realistic $80 delivered yes, it's a great price for a great piece of kit, don't get me wrong. but if the price is still an issue (as implied by free monitor), it shouldn't be a big exaggeration to expect to find a second hand Pi4 for $40-50
  - thinkmassive 6y ago
    Adafruit $55 + $4.55 shipping Amazon.com $59.43 + free shipping (1-day w/Prime) PiShop.us $55 + $7.95 shipping ...so $60 seems very fair including shipping, not to mention this larger keyboard model will cost at least as much to ship.
ineedasername 6y ago
An 8 year old kid with non-technical parents is not going to have an easy time of it compared to what is essentially a plug-and-play solution. And I'm talking about households that literally do not have computers. There is no old hardware lying around, much less not just a keyboard & mouse, but the HDMI adapter, SD card, ability to apply the Raspbian OS image to the SD card, etc. Sure, search craigslist or similar, ask friends/family, you might get by. That's not a scalable solution for 1,000 kids in my school district that lack resources, much less the thousands more in surrounding districts. As with many technical problems, scaling is a challenge, not the single one-off solution.
- 867-5309 6y ago
  > An 8 year old kid with non-technical parents is not going to have an easy time of it compared to what is essentially a plug-and-play solution. that's an entirely different argument, which I agree with you on. the original argument was that it's more likely a spare keyboard is lying around than a comparatively expensive monitor (which is more prone to being repurposed) > mouse, .. HDMI adapter, SD card, ability to apply the Raspbian OS image to the SD card these would still be required anyway, they're not included in the price

deleted 6y ago

[deleted]

That's a pretty big exaggeration considering the 4GB Raspberry Pi 4B typically sells for $55-60. This adds a keyboard and case for $10-15 on top of that.

867-5309 6y ago
> $55-60 let's allow a more realistic $80 delivered yes, it's a great price for a great piece of kit, don't get me wrong. but if the price is still an issue (as implied by free monitor), it shouldn't be a big exaggeration to expect to find a second hand Pi4 for $40-50
- thinkmassive 6y ago
  Adafruit $55 + $4.55 shipping Amazon.com $59.43 + free shipping (1-day w/Prime) PiShop.us $55 + $7.95 shipping ...so $60 seems very fair including shipping, not to mention this larger keyboard model will cost at least as much to ship.

ineedasername 6y ago

An 8 year old kid with non-technical parents is not going to have an easy time of it compared to what is essentially a plug-and-play solution. And I'm talking about households that literally do not have computers. There is no old hardware lying around, much less not just a keyboard & mouse, but the HDMI adapter, SD card, ability to apply the Raspbian OS image to the SD card, etc. Sure, search craigslist or similar, ask friends/family, you might get by. That's not a scalable solution for 1,000 kids in my school district that lack resources, much less the thousands more in surrounding districts. As with many technical problems, scaling is a challenge, not the single one-off solution.

867-5309 6y ago
> An 8 year old kid with non-technical parents is not going to have an easy time of it compared to what is essentially a plug-and-play solution. that's an entirely different argument, which I agree with you on. the original argument was that it's more likely a spare keyboard is lying around than a comparatively expensive monitor (which is more prone to being repurposed) > mouse, .. HDMI adapter, SD card, ability to apply the Raspbian OS image to the SD card these would still be required anyway, they're not included in the price