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You're projecting Stalinism onto people who are fundamentally seeking more democracy. It just shows your own ignorance, wilful or not.

by jahaja 6y ago

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chrisseaton 6y ago
> fundamentally seeking more democracy I don't think anyone expressed an opinion on whether more democracy was a good thing or not? I think democracy is the best approach we have. And nobody mentioned Stalinism either. Your comment seems off-topic.
- jahaja 6y ago
  > I don't know but I'm not sure we should keep trying as millions of people end up dead every time someone gives it another whirl. This reflexive comment regarding any sort of resemblance of socialism?
  - chrisseaton 6y ago
    We're not talking about socialism, or Stalinism. You're reading words that we didn't use. And I didn't say there's anything wrong with socialism - I didn't even mention it! I live in a country with many socialist policies such as socialised healthcare. It's almost universally supported here. But I don't think most people here would want to try to force everyone to be more-or-less equal.
    - jahaja 6y ago
      So what are you referring to with that sentence?
      - chrisseaton 6y ago
        Are you asking what the whole topic of the thread is? People trying to radically force everyone to be equal.
        jahaja 6y ago
        Why are you being deliberately obtuse? The sentence I quoted: > I don't know but I'm not sure we should keep trying as millions of people end up dead every time someone gives it another whirl. What is this sentence referring to if not trying to associate future attempts at egalitarianism with Stalinism?
        chrisseaton 6y ago
        > Why are you being deliberately obtuse? Why are you asking me to explain things I didn't say? > What is this sentence referring It's referring to people trying to forcibly make everyone more-or-less equal. You're asking me why I'm projecting Stalinism... but you brought up Stalinism, not me. If you think that matches Stalinism then that's something you've introduced to the conversation, not me. People opposed to Stalinism like Trotskyists were also in favour of dictatorship and violently forced equality. Stalin didn't have a monopoly on demonstrably shit ideas for oppressively and violently reshaping society.
        jahaja 6y ago
        So which "whirls" killing millions are you referring to?
        chrisseaton 6y ago
        Have you really never heard of any https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_communist_regimes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_communist_...? If you're going to deny these things happened then I think you're crazy and I'm out the conversation.

You're projecting Stalinism onto people who are fundamentally seeking more democracy. It just shows your own ignorance, wilful or not.

by jahaja 6y ago

You're projecting Stalinism onto people who are fundamentally seeking more democracy. It just shows your own ignorance, wilful or not.

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chrisseaton 6y ago

> fundamentally seeking more democracy I don't think anyone expressed an opinion on whether more democracy was a good thing or not? I think democracy is the best approach we have. And nobody mentioned Stalinism either. Your comment seems off-topic.

jahaja 6y ago
> I don't know but I'm not sure we should keep trying as millions of people end up dead every time someone gives it another whirl. This reflexive comment regarding any sort of resemblance of socialism?
- chrisseaton 6y ago
  We're not talking about socialism, or Stalinism. You're reading words that we didn't use. And I didn't say there's anything wrong with socialism - I didn't even mention it! I live in a country with many socialist policies such as socialised healthcare. It's almost universally supported here. But I don't think most people here would want to try to force everyone to be more-or-less equal.
  - jahaja 6y ago
    So what are you referring to with that sentence?
    - chrisseaton 6y ago
      Are you asking what the whole topic of the thread is? People trying to radically force everyone to be equal.
      - jahaja 6y ago
        Why are you being deliberately obtuse? The sentence I quoted: > I don't know but I'm not sure we should keep trying as millions of people end up dead every time someone gives it another whirl. What is this sentence referring to if not trying to associate future attempts at egalitarianism with Stalinism?
        chrisseaton 6y ago
        > Why are you being deliberately obtuse? Why are you asking me to explain things I didn't say? > What is this sentence referring It's referring to people trying to forcibly make everyone more-or-less equal. You're asking me why I'm projecting Stalinism... but you brought up Stalinism, not me. If you think that matches Stalinism then that's something you've introduced to the conversation, not me. People opposed to Stalinism like Trotskyists were also in favour of dictatorship and violently forced equality. Stalin didn't have a monopoly on demonstrably shit ideas for oppressively and violently reshaping society.
        jahaja 6y ago
        So which "whirls" killing millions are you referring to?
        chrisseaton 6y ago
        Have you really never heard of any https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_communist_regimes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_communist_...? If you're going to deny these things happened then I think you're crazy and I'm out the conversation.