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That's what you get for not reading the TOS and cancellation policy [0]. If you let it expire,you keep the privacy settings; if you cancel (downgrade to free),

That's what you get for not reading the TOS and cancellation policy [0]. If you let it expire,you keep the privacy settings; if you cancel (downgrade to free), you lose the pricacy and everything is public. I'm not saying i's good practice, but if these terms don't work for you, don't use the service. [0] https://support.prezi.com/hc/en-us/articles/360003478894-Canceling-a-subscription https://support.prezi.com/hc/en-us/articles/360003478894-Can...

alisonkisk 6y ago
"After your license expires, the presentations you’ve created will remain in your account and keep their privacy status." Did that change today?
- McDyver 6y ago
  I don't know if it changed, but could have only been an improvement; if in the previous version everything would be made public.
- mherdeg 6y ago
  August 4, 2020 text was also "After your license expires, the presentations you’ve created will remain in your account and keep their privacy status." That seems at odds with the checkbox in the UI in the Tweet in this post ( https://twitter.com/apenwarr/status/1322998961704210433 https://twitter.com/apenwarr/status/1322998961704210433 ). Maybe they've changed the business logic but haven't updated the help site?
saagarjha 6y ago
You can’t just put whatever you like in a TOS and expect it to be enforceable.
- McDyver 6y ago
  That's true, but in this case it's already stated that the terms might be abusive. Once you continue, knowing that, you know you might have your presentations made public. Once again, I don't condone these terms.
  - tialaramex 6y ago
    No, they really mean it. Even if you write it in double bold and highlight it in orange and make everybody signing read it out loud first, you can't enforce terms that aren't legal. For example, in the US I believe it's pretty common for renters to be obliged to pay for or fix up normal dilapidation of the property when they leave. But in the UK it's illegal to require that for residential property. If you rent out houses in the UK, you're going to be paying to repaint them every few years, replace worn carpets, and so on, because the law says the tenant doesn't pay, and if you add a clause saying "Actually the tenant agrees to pay anyway" the law says your lease acts exactly as if you didn't add that clause except now you also lose the right to get courts to enforce your lease because it was illegal and you lose certain other protections because clearly you're an abusive landlord. So bad luck you made things harder on yourself.
    - mytailorisrich 6y ago
      That's not correct. While there can be unfair terms, which are then unenforceable, if a tenant and landlord explicitly and freely agree that the tenant will pay for something or do something this isn't necessarily invalid as this can be interpreted as being consideration (i.e. what the tenant agrees to do in exchange to be granted the lease). Certainly there is no loss of "right to get courts to enforce your lease" or "other protections".
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alisonkisk 6y ago

"After your license expires, the presentations you’ve created will remain in your account and keep their privacy status." Did that change today?

McDyver 6y ago
I don't know if it changed, but could have only been an improvement; if in the previous version everything would be made public.
mherdeg 6y ago
August 4, 2020 text was also "After your license expires, the presentations you’ve created will remain in your account and keep their privacy status." That seems at odds with the checkbox in the UI in the Tweet in this post ( https://twitter.com/apenwarr/status/1322998961704210433 https://twitter.com/apenwarr/status/1322998961704210433 ). Maybe they've changed the business logic but haven't updated the help site?

saagarjha 6y ago

You can’t just put whatever you like in a TOS and expect it to be enforceable.

McDyver 6y ago
That's true, but in this case it's already stated that the terms might be abusive. Once you continue, knowing that, you know you might have your presentations made public. Once again, I don't condone these terms.
- tialaramex 6y ago
  No, they really mean it. Even if you write it in double bold and highlight it in orange and make everybody signing read it out loud first, you can't enforce terms that aren't legal. For example, in the US I believe it's pretty common for renters to be obliged to pay for or fix up normal dilapidation of the property when they leave. But in the UK it's illegal to require that for residential property. If you rent out houses in the UK, you're going to be paying to repaint them every few years, replace worn carpets, and so on, because the law says the tenant doesn't pay, and if you add a clause saying "Actually the tenant agrees to pay anyway" the law says your lease acts exactly as if you didn't add that clause except now you also lose the right to get courts to enforce your lease because it was illegal and you lose certain other protections because clearly you're an abusive landlord. So bad luck you made things harder on yourself.
  - mytailorisrich 6y ago
    That's not correct. While there can be unfair terms, which are then unenforceable, if a tenant and landlord explicitly and freely agree that the tenant will pay for something or do something this isn't necessarily invalid as this can be interpreted as being consideration (i.e. what the tenant agrees to do in exchange to be granted the lease). Certainly there is no loss of "right to get courts to enforce your lease" or "other protections".

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