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Hard to read this with a straight face, after Snowden and Julian Assange. Snowden is still in exile, and Assange is tortured in Jail. This is the price for prov

Hard to read this with a straight face, after Snowden and Julian Assange. Snowden is still in exile, and Assange is tortured in Jail. This is the price for proving deep state "conspiracy theories".

mthoms 6y ago
There's a wide gulf between believing that "the government can listen in on any conversation" and "the government is comprised of lizard people". The article is about the latter.
- jungletime 6y ago
  Wikileaks was a place for consciences objectors to reveal government corruption, and it quickly gained respect in the eyes of the public. With the arrest of Julian, and the downfall of Wikileaks. We are now left with much less reputable places to disseminate that information. I take issue with the article, because it attacks and delegitimizes independent investigative effort. Unfortunately that effort is now done in the dregs of the internet in places like 4chan, and now disseminated by less reputable people like Rudy Juliani. "Lizard" people is modern abstraction for evil/corrupt people. Similar to angels and demons. We call the earth round, when in fact its a little oval, and has mountains that protrude out. Abstractions can be true on some level of resolution, but in fact be false in the absolute sense. The article doesn't really invalidate the sentiment that some people in government are corrupt. Which is probably the right sentiment to hold, even if arrived through the wrong fact.
  - krapp 6y ago
    It's perfectly reasonable to believe that corruption exists in government. It's not reasonable to believe government is so corrupt that Tony Blair is probably a space lizard wearing a human skinsuit or that Hillary Clinton probably drinks the blood of child sex slaves.
edgyquant 6y ago
Snowden immediately fled to US adversaries and Assange was knowingly working with Russian intelligence agencies.

Hard to read this with a straight face, after Snowden and Julian Assange. Snowden is still in exile, and Assange is tortured in Jail. This is the price for proving deep state "conspiracy theories".

mthoms 6y ago

There's a wide gulf between believing that "the government can listen in on any conversation" and "the government is comprised of lizard people". The article is about the latter.

jungletime 6y ago
Wikileaks was a place for consciences objectors to reveal government corruption, and it quickly gained respect in the eyes of the public. With the arrest of Julian, and the downfall of Wikileaks. We are now left with much less reputable places to disseminate that information. I take issue with the article, because it attacks and delegitimizes independent investigative effort. Unfortunately that effort is now done in the dregs of the internet in places like 4chan, and now disseminated by less reputable people like Rudy Juliani. "Lizard" people is modern abstraction for evil/corrupt people. Similar to angels and demons. We call the earth round, when in fact its a little oval, and has mountains that protrude out. Abstractions can be true on some level of resolution, but in fact be false in the absolute sense. The article doesn't really invalidate the sentiment that some people in government are corrupt. Which is probably the right sentiment to hold, even if arrived through the wrong fact.
- krapp 6y ago
  It's perfectly reasonable to believe that corruption exists in government. It's not reasonable to believe government is so corrupt that Tony Blair is probably a space lizard wearing a human skinsuit or that Hillary Clinton probably drinks the blood of child sex slaves.

edgyquant 6y ago

Snowden immediately fled to US adversaries and Assange was knowingly working with Russian intelligence agencies.