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> How is this not regulated? Cue the "businesses can choose who they do business with!" and "if you don't like it, build your own!" people. We signed up for m

> How is this not regulated? Cue the "businesses can choose who they do business with!" and "if you don't like it, build your own!" people. We signed up for many of those things individually and they've connected them more and more. Now we have a single point of failure that can take down everything across all your sytems. And it's not just those. Don't forget about Google Voice, Android, and every service where you used "sign in with Google"

a3n 6y ago
How novel, for the "product" to demand rights and regulation. :-(
hedora 6y ago
In fairness, at least for consumers, the only hard to replace Google product is Android. eCommerce and ad supported businesses that want to avoid Google are screwed though.
syshum 6y ago
Business should be allowed to choose who they do business with, they already choose to do business with these people. The problem here is they want to unilaterally have the power to termination the business relationship This is a problem with one sided none negotiable terms of service being considered valid contracts under the law They should not be. We need to change data ownership laws, and force companies to do vetting on Account Creation, and put in provisions on how accounts can be terminated once a company accepts a user owned data. i.e Accounts must have a human reviewed appeal process, with full and articulated reporting as to exactly which rules were violated, and exactly what activity was the violation. And have a View Only data Take-Out period At a minimum
- NeoFeznet 6y ago
  Exactly. This isn't so much an issue of "Companies have the right to do what they want (within reason)". It's a typical issue of monopolies and dealing with a large, faceless corporation. Anyone who's ever dealt with any corporation of any significant size can tell you similar stories to this.
- kube-system 6y ago
  > This is a problem with one sided none negotiable terms of service being considered valid contracts under the law Are they even valid contracts now? Many gmail accounts are missing consideration or capacity -- which are required elements of a valid contract.

a3n 6y ago

How novel, for the "product" to demand rights and regulation. :-(

hedora 6y ago

In fairness, at least for consumers, the only hard to replace Google product is Android. eCommerce and ad supported businesses that want to avoid Google are screwed though.

syshum 6y ago

Business should be allowed to choose who they do business with, they already choose to do business with these people. The problem here is they want to unilaterally have the power to termination the business relationship This is a problem with one sided none negotiable terms of service being considered valid contracts under the law They should not be. We need to change data ownership laws, and force companies to do vetting on Account Creation, and put in provisions on how accounts can be terminated once a company accepts a user owned data. i.e Accounts must have a human reviewed appeal process, with full and articulated reporting as to exactly which rules were violated, and exactly what activity was the violation. And have a View Only data Take-Out period At a minimum

NeoFeznet 6y ago
Exactly. This isn't so much an issue of "Companies have the right to do what they want (within reason)". It's a typical issue of monopolies and dealing with a large, faceless corporation. Anyone who's ever dealt with any corporation of any significant size can tell you similar stories to this.
kube-system 6y ago
> This is a problem with one sided none negotiable terms of service being considered valid contracts under the law Are they even valid contracts now? Many gmail accounts are missing consideration or capacity -- which are required elements of a valid contract.