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Review of High Priority Projects free software: your input is needed

77 points by crazypython 6y ago

Kinrany 6y ago
I wish there was a better alternative to Zoom. Both for work and for spending time with friends. Not just video and audio, but a virtual space and the ability to have multiple conversations at once. A mix of Mozilla Hubs and Roblox's infrastructure.
- fsflover 6y ago
  What's wrong with Jitsi [0,1] and Jami [2]? [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22669968 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22669968 [1] https://www.fsf.org/news/free-software-foundation-announces-freedom-respecting-videoconferencing-for-its-associate-members https://www.fsf.org/news/free-software-foundation-announces-... [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24810464 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24810464
  - kop316 6y ago
    That is what I was wondering too. Jitsi Meet is really nice.
  - npsimons 6y ago
    I'll throw in BigBlueButton[0]; it's been working nicely for me and my hobby groups to hold meetings on a VPS at DigitalOcean. [0] https://bigbluebutton.org/ https://bigbluebutton.org/
  - guerby 6y ago
    Also https://bigbluebutton.org/ https://bigbluebutton.org/ On an ubuntu 16.04 see https://github.com/bigbluebutton/bbb-install https://github.com/bigbluebutton/bbb-install one liner to install the whole thing.
  - Kinrany 6y ago
    Aren't both exactly the same as Zoom, just free?
    - fsflover 6y ago
      There's a huge difference between free and non-free. You probably miss that it's not about price but freedom: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-even-more-important.html https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-even-more-impor...
- captn3m0 6y ago
  https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/priority-projects/voicevideochat https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/priority-projects/voicevideoch... Real-time voice and video chat is on the priority list :)
openfuture 6y ago
What happens once a project is on the list?
- fsflover 6y ago
  The list serves to foster work on projects that are important for increasing the adoption and use of free software applications and free software operating systems. The list helps guide volunteers, supporters, and companies to projects where their skills and resources can be utilized, whether they be in coding, graphic design, writing, financial contributions, or activism. We hope that you can find a project here where your skill, energy, money, and time can be put to good use. https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/priority-projects https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/priority-projects
kop316 6y ago
I wrote this: Good Morning, I would like to provide input to put the following projects on the High Priority List: - ModemMananager + libpurple + purple-mm-sms https://sr.ht/~anteater/mms-stack/ https://sr.ht/~anteater/mms-stack/ Currently, neither the PinePhone nor the Librem 5 have the same feature parody as an Android/Apple Smartphone, in that they only have the ability to send/recieve SMS and Phone calls, but not MMS. In the US, this bring both phones as a non-starter to many to wish to no longer use Android and/or iOS, and wish to use free software to completely power their phones. Many of the distributions that run on Both the Pinephone and Librem 5 depend on the ModemMananager + libpurple + purple-mm-sms stack, so enabling this will give most of the distributions this feature. I would like to see this feature parody so that many could use these (and make it easier to build on other phones) that don't depend on Android and/or iOS. Thank you for your time.
- scns 6y ago
  s/parody/parity/g Voice input or non native speaker (like me)?
  - teknopaul 6y ago
    I kind liked the idea of feature parody with Apple. Perhaps an obligatory app store where 30% of the profits go to charity.
  - kop316 6y ago
    Whoops, it was a case of my bad typing.
- codetrotter 6y ago
  In my country, with the telecom operators that I have used, in the cases where I was using a phone that could not receive MMS, or I had the MMS profile disabled, the operator would send me an SMS instead with a link to an online customer portal on the web where I could view the contents of the MMS. Curious whether this is something that telecom operators do all around the world or not. Either way, I agree that being unable to receive MMS would be a show stopper for many. The most recent time, a few weeks ago, when I could not receive MMS, my operator would attempt to deliver the MMS first and only after a timeout of exactly 24H would they deliver the SMS with the link instead. The MMS in question in my case was someone that I work with who was requesting that me and another person show up for a meeting the same day. So receiving the MMS 24H later was not much use. Fortunately in this instance the person contacted me through other channels when they hadn't heard back on the MMS that they'd sent and which I had not yet received. The reason that I could not receive the MMS at that time was that I had recently downgraded to a 0MB plan to save money. I have since bumped my plan one step up again, to 500MB included per month for the equivalent of about ~$3 extra per month, so that I am able to receive MMS and to get messages in various IM services, as well as to being able to use Google Maps, bus travel time table apps, and doing web browsing for the most important stuff when I really need it as well. Sadly however, and now I am very much going out on a tangent here but, it's actually really difficult to limit data usage to a sensible amount, because even though I have turned off mobile data for most of the apps, sometimes I forget that I am on mobile and I suddenly use a fair chunk more of my data than I meant to. And to make matters worse, sometimes my phone loses the WiFi connection and I don't notice and again I use a chunk more than I meant to. With data rollover I have 676 MB available this month, and already I have used 266 MB and there is still 28 days left of the current billing cycle! Looking at the settings, I see now that I'd forgotten to disable mobile traffic for the Photos app and that it has consumed over 300 MB in total of my mobile data during the last two months. Hopefully having now turned that off I will still be able to manage with the remaining data for this billing cycle.
x87678r 6y ago
I want to start helping with stuff, is it best to choose from a list like this? or something you like but doesn't really need help? or is there somewhere central where people ask for help.
- tupputuppu 6y ago
  It's a bazaar, there's no central authority :-) Probably good if you chose a project you personally/professiobally use and thus know it from an end user perspective, eat your own dog food etc. Good also if you're been interested in the area longer so you're sure you want to work with it long term.
atraac 6y ago
Getting "This page does not seem to exist…" error, running mobile Edge.

77 points by crazypython 6y ago

I wish there was a better alternative to Zoom. Both for work and for spending time with friends. Not just video and audio, but a virtual space and the ability to have multiple conversations at once. A mix of Mozilla Hubs and Roblox's infrastructure.

fsflover 6y ago
What's wrong with Jitsi [0,1] and Jami [2]? [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22669968 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22669968 [1] https://www.fsf.org/news/free-software-foundation-announces-freedom-respecting-videoconferencing-for-its-associate-members https://www.fsf.org/news/free-software-foundation-announces-... [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24810464 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24810464
- kop316 6y ago
  That is what I was wondering too. Jitsi Meet is really nice.
- npsimons 6y ago
  I'll throw in BigBlueButton[0]; it's been working nicely for me and my hobby groups to hold meetings on a VPS at DigitalOcean. [0] https://bigbluebutton.org/ https://bigbluebutton.org/
- guerby 6y ago
  Also https://bigbluebutton.org/ https://bigbluebutton.org/ On an ubuntu 16.04 see https://github.com/bigbluebutton/bbb-install https://github.com/bigbluebutton/bbb-install one liner to install the whole thing.
- Kinrany 6y ago
  Aren't both exactly the same as Zoom, just free?
  - fsflover 6y ago
    There's a huge difference between free and non-free. You probably miss that it's not about price but freedom: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-even-more-important.html https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-even-more-impor...
captn3m0 6y ago
https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/priority-projects/voicevideochat https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/priority-projects/voicevideoch... Real-time voice and video chat is on the priority list :)

openfuture 6y ago

What happens once a project is on the list?

fsflover 6y ago
The list serves to foster work on projects that are important for increasing the adoption and use of free software applications and free software operating systems. The list helps guide volunteers, supporters, and companies to projects where their skills and resources can be utilized, whether they be in coding, graphic design, writing, financial contributions, or activism. We hope that you can find a project here where your skill, energy, money, and time can be put to good use. https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/priority-projects https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/priority-projects

kop316 6y ago

I wrote this: Good Morning, I would like to provide input to put the following projects on the High Priority List: - ModemMananager + libpurple + purple-mm-sms https://sr.ht/~anteater/mms-stack/ https://sr.ht/~anteater/mms-stack/ Currently, neither the PinePhone nor the Librem 5 have the same feature parody as an Android/Apple Smartphone, in that they only have the ability to send/recieve SMS and Phone calls, but not MMS. In the US, this bring both phones as a non-starter to many to wish to no longer use Android and/or iOS, and wish to use free software to completely power their phones. Many of the distributions that run on Both the Pinephone and Librem 5 depend on the ModemMananager + libpurple + purple-mm-sms stack, so enabling this will give most of the distributions this feature. I would like to see this feature parody so that many could use these (and make it easier to build on other phones) that don't depend on Android and/or iOS. Thank you for your time.

scns 6y ago
s/parody/parity/g Voice input or non native speaker (like me)?
- teknopaul 6y ago
  I kind liked the idea of feature parody with Apple. Perhaps an obligatory app store where 30% of the profits go to charity.
- kop316 6y ago
  Whoops, it was a case of my bad typing.
codetrotter 6y ago
In my country, with the telecom operators that I have used, in the cases where I was using a phone that could not receive MMS, or I had the MMS profile disabled, the operator would send me an SMS instead with a link to an online customer portal on the web where I could view the contents of the MMS. Curious whether this is something that telecom operators do all around the world or not. Either way, I agree that being unable to receive MMS would be a show stopper for many. The most recent time, a few weeks ago, when I could not receive MMS, my operator would attempt to deliver the MMS first and only after a timeout of exactly 24H would they deliver the SMS with the link instead. The MMS in question in my case was someone that I work with who was requesting that me and another person show up for a meeting the same day. So receiving the MMS 24H later was not much use. Fortunately in this instance the person contacted me through other channels when they hadn't heard back on the MMS that they'd sent and which I had not yet received. The reason that I could not receive the MMS at that time was that I had recently downgraded to a 0MB plan to save money. I have since bumped my plan one step up again, to 500MB included per month for the equivalent of about ~$3 extra per month, so that I am able to receive MMS and to get messages in various IM services, as well as to being able to use Google Maps, bus travel time table apps, and doing web browsing for the most important stuff when I really need it as well. Sadly however, and now I am very much going out on a tangent here but, it's actually really difficult to limit data usage to a sensible amount, because even though I have turned off mobile data for most of the apps, sometimes I forget that I am on mobile and I suddenly use a fair chunk more of my data than I meant to. And to make matters worse, sometimes my phone loses the WiFi connection and I don't notice and again I use a chunk more than I meant to. With data rollover I have 676 MB available this month, and already I have used 266 MB and there is still 28 days left of the current billing cycle! Looking at the settings, I see now that I'd forgotten to disable mobile traffic for the Photos app and that it has consumed over 300 MB in total of my mobile data during the last two months. Hopefully having now turned that off I will still be able to manage with the remaining data for this billing cycle.

x87678r 6y ago

I want to start helping with stuff, is it best to choose from a list like this? or something you like but doesn't really need help? or is there somewhere central where people ask for help.

tupputuppu 6y ago
It's a bazaar, there's no central authority :-) Probably good if you chose a project you personally/professiobally use and thus know it from an end user perspective, eat your own dog food etc. Good also if you're been interested in the area longer so you're sure you want to work with it long term.

atraac 6y ago

Getting "This page does not seem to exist…" error, running mobile Edge.