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E-bikes are the worst thing on Dutch cycling paths. I experienced them for two years. People speeding irresponsibility on these things going 40kph and practical

E-bikes are the worst thing on Dutch cycling paths. I experienced them for two years. People speeding irresponsibility on these things going 40kph and practically inaudible. They just zoom past you and you're completely unaware of their presence until the last couple of meters. A big danger to cyclists, moped riders and pedestrians.

rocgf 6y ago
There are two types of ebikes, and the law draws a distinction between them. There are pedlecs (25kmph) and s-pedlecs (45kmph). The s-pedlecs have a license plate and are illegal on most cycle lanes. The only place where they would be legally allowed next to regular bicycles/pedlecs would be outside the cities, on the "bike highways".
- lki876 6y ago
  Unfortunately there is zero enforcement. Either there would have to be a massive amount of police controlling how people drive, or they have to be banned.
  - Vinnl 6y ago
    I don't think I've ever seen the 45km/h version on bicycle paths though. The 25km/h versions have similar problems as described, so I'm guessing they were what was referred to, but they definitely don't go that fast.
    - lki876 6y ago
      Depends where you live I suppose. Some areas are perfectly fine. Mine unfortunately has a lot of social issues.
  - rocgf 6y ago
    I have never seen a speed pedlec on a bike lane inside the city. I can't even remember the last time I saw one in the city generally speaking, as they don't seem to be extremely popular. There used to be a way bigger problem with enforcing of scooters in the bike paths, though that is now way less of an issue, as far as I can tell. The only scooters legally allowed on bike lanes are the ones limited to 25kmph. I still find them dangerous, but considerably less so than how it was a few years back.
ahoy 6y ago
NYC has a similar issue of e-bikes (really electric scooters capable of roughly 45kmph/25mph) in bike lanes. It's annoying as a cyclist, but it's still much preferable to having to share space with automobiles.

rocgf 6y ago

There are two types of ebikes, and the law draws a distinction between them. There are pedlecs (25kmph) and s-pedlecs (45kmph). The s-pedlecs have a license plate and are illegal on most cycle lanes. The only place where they would be legally allowed next to regular bicycles/pedlecs would be outside the cities, on the "bike highways".

lki876 6y ago
Unfortunately there is zero enforcement. Either there would have to be a massive amount of police controlling how people drive, or they have to be banned.
- Vinnl 6y ago
  I don't think I've ever seen the 45km/h version on bicycle paths though. The 25km/h versions have similar problems as described, so I'm guessing they were what was referred to, but they definitely don't go that fast.
  - lki876 6y ago
    Depends where you live I suppose. Some areas are perfectly fine. Mine unfortunately has a lot of social issues.
- rocgf 6y ago
  I have never seen a speed pedlec on a bike lane inside the city. I can't even remember the last time I saw one in the city generally speaking, as they don't seem to be extremely popular. There used to be a way bigger problem with enforcing of scooters in the bike paths, though that is now way less of an issue, as far as I can tell. The only scooters legally allowed on bike lanes are the ones limited to 25kmph. I still find them dangerous, but considerably less so than how it was a few years back.

ahoy 6y ago

NYC has a similar issue of e-bikes (really electric scooters capable of roughly 45kmph/25mph) in bike lanes. It's annoying as a cyclist, but it's still much preferable to having to share space with automobiles.