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>probably spurred on by Chinese propaganda and their fake reporting. What the hell are you talking about? What propaganda or fake reporting? China initially d

by ralfn 6y ago

>probably spurred on by Chinese propaganda and their fake reporting. What the hell are you talking about? What propaganda or fake reporting? China initially denied there even was a virus or that it was dangerous. Just like Europe. Just like the US. What kind of weird conspiracy websites are you getting this information from and how did you end on this site? Don't those places have comment sections too where you can discuss with like minded people that are also shopping for confirmation basis data points for their xenophobia. China has a very scary government but that's no reason to for us here to just make shit up. It actually dilutes from the real risks and criticisms.

sumedh 6y ago
> China has a very scary government but that's no reason to for us here to just make shit up. China can open their firewall and let their citizens speak freely if they have nothing to hide.
- vkou 6y ago
  China has an extensive diaspora of people who stay in regular touch with relatives back home. You'd know this, if you actually spoke to any Chinese immigrants. This diaspora knew about how serious COVID was back in January. If they had millions of people secretly falling sick today, this diaspora would have heard about it. It hasn't, and they don't. For all intents and purposes, South Korea, Taiwan, Vietnam, and yes, China have brought the virus under control, while we are faffing about with millions sick.
  - sumedh 6y ago
    I dont understand why you are defending the Chinese regime? > This diaspora knew about how serious COVID was back in January. I know because lot of them were buying masks and other PPE from Australia and sending it to China. Too bad they did not care about their host country. Not sure why you are talking about South Korea, Taiwan, Vietnam they are much more open than China.
    - vkou 6y ago
      > I know because lot of them were buying masks and other PPE from Australia and sending it to China. Too bad they did not care about their host country. Do you have the same expectation of self-sacrificing patriotism from, say, a non-immigrant millionaire (there's a lot of those around, especially in booming real estate markets), who sits on a mountain of wealth instead of 'helping their host country'? Or is it just constrained to middle-class immigrants, who are trying to help their relatives survive a pandemic? Christ on crutches, this has an odd air of xenophobia about it.
      - sumedh 6y ago
        Its both relatives and the Chinese regime who sucked PPE from Australia and Australian hospitals could not get masks because of that. Its the same Chinese Govt who tried to cover up the pandemic in the first place. Christ on crutches, this has an odd air of supporting evil dictatorial regime about it

by ralfn 6y ago

sumedh 6y ago

> China has a very scary government but that's no reason to for us here to just make shit up. China can open their firewall and let their citizens speak freely if they have nothing to hide.

vkou 6y ago
China has an extensive diaspora of people who stay in regular touch with relatives back home. You'd know this, if you actually spoke to any Chinese immigrants. This diaspora knew about how serious COVID was back in January. If they had millions of people secretly falling sick today, this diaspora would have heard about it. It hasn't, and they don't. For all intents and purposes, South Korea, Taiwan, Vietnam, and yes, China have brought the virus under control, while we are faffing about with millions sick.
- sumedh 6y ago
  I dont understand why you are defending the Chinese regime? > This diaspora knew about how serious COVID was back in January. I know because lot of them were buying masks and other PPE from Australia and sending it to China. Too bad they did not care about their host country. Not sure why you are talking about South Korea, Taiwan, Vietnam they are much more open than China.
  - vkou 6y ago
    > I know because lot of them were buying masks and other PPE from Australia and sending it to China. Too bad they did not care about their host country. Do you have the same expectation of self-sacrificing patriotism from, say, a non-immigrant millionaire (there's a lot of those around, especially in booming real estate markets), who sits on a mountain of wealth instead of 'helping their host country'? Or is it just constrained to middle-class immigrants, who are trying to help their relatives survive a pandemic? Christ on crutches, this has an odd air of xenophobia about it.
    - sumedh 6y ago
      Its both relatives and the Chinese regime who sucked PPE from Australia and Australian hospitals could not get masks because of that. Its the same Chinese Govt who tried to cover up the pandemic in the first place. Christ on crutches, this has an odd air of supporting evil dictatorial regime about it