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Old clunker needs to pass smog test to get the trade in $.

by NullPrefix 6y ago

sokoloff 6y ago
That seems suboptimal if the goal is reducing pollution.
- Broken_Hippo 6y ago
  If it doesn't pass, it can't be driven and won't be on the road anyway. If it does, it is less efficient than an escooter/ebike, so it is worth it. Either method gets cars off the road.
  - sokoloff 6y ago
    Unless Lithuania's enforcement is way, way stricter than ours, I think there are probably a fair number of non-smogged cars driving around illegally or with waivers. In MA, if I fail emissions testing and spend $735 (10+ year old car) on repairs, I can keep driving. ($835 for 6-9 years old, $935 for 0-5 years old.)
    - magahacka 6y ago
      The enforcement is a joke, diesel cars pass without catalytic comverter without any problems. For diesels they measure only the "smoke"(dumingumas) level at high RPM, so cars that are constantly spewing black smoke still barely pass. The amount of Audi 80 is decreasing and being replaced by golf mk4 as "bottom" tier cars.
    - Broken_Hippo 6y ago
      If Lithuania's is anything like Norway's, it is stricter than anything I remember hearing about in the US (I am from Indiana, where there are zero checks). They should be - I think the regulations here in Norway are the EU regulations. In Norway, they test more than just emissions. Brakes, emergency brakes, whether or not you have a safety triangle in your car and reflective vest - among other things. Our car didn't quite pass a couple years ago, and we were able to do some repairs. It was brake work that time. There was a deadline to get this done. This past summer, it didn't pass, but it was an engine problem that was making some blue smoke. We let the state take it and just put the money towards a different 20-year-old car. It is possible to keep the car, but the government requires you to turn in your plates. You won't get far in an unplated car.

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Old clunker needs to pass smog test to get the trade in $.

by NullPrefix 6y ago

Old clunker needs to pass smog test to get the trade in $.

sokoloff 6y ago
That seems suboptimal if the goal is reducing pollution.
- Broken_Hippo 6y ago
  If it doesn't pass, it can't be driven and won't be on the road anyway. If it does, it is less efficient than an escooter/ebike, so it is worth it. Either method gets cars off the road.
  - sokoloff 6y ago
    Unless Lithuania's enforcement is way, way stricter than ours, I think there are probably a fair number of non-smogged cars driving around illegally or with waivers. In MA, if I fail emissions testing and spend $735 (10+ year old car) on repairs, I can keep driving. ($835 for 6-9 years old, $935 for 0-5 years old.)
    - magahacka 6y ago
      The enforcement is a joke, diesel cars pass without catalytic comverter without any problems. For diesels they measure only the "smoke"(dumingumas) level at high RPM, so cars that are constantly spewing black smoke still barely pass. The amount of Audi 80 is decreasing and being replaced by golf mk4 as "bottom" tier cars.
    - Broken_Hippo 6y ago
      If Lithuania's is anything like Norway's, it is stricter than anything I remember hearing about in the US (I am from Indiana, where there are zero checks). They should be - I think the regulations here in Norway are the EU regulations. In Norway, they test more than just emissions. Brakes, emergency brakes, whether or not you have a safety triangle in your car and reflective vest - among other things. Our car didn't quite pass a couple years ago, and we were able to do some repairs. It was brake work that time. There was a deadline to get this done. This past summer, it didn't pass, but it was an engine problem that was making some blue smoke. We let the state take it and just put the money towards a different 20-year-old car. It is possible to keep the car, but the government requires you to turn in your plates. You won't get far in an unplated car.