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Can you define balanced or beneficial? Can you define it remotely mathematically? If no to the second algorithims are flat out impossible. They aren't magical

Can you define balanced or beneficial? Can you define it remotely mathematically? If no to the second algorithims are flat out impossible. They aren't magical genies regardless of what you believe. If no to the first you can't even make ill-considered laws. Even somehow having the concept is no guarantee - it could be a largely useless tautology of the Drake equation. If we knew the density of intelligent alien life and parameters of signals they would actually use we wouldn't be asking why we haven't found any yet. If you cannot obtain the information how are you going to tell if it is "beneficial" or "balanced" as opposed to your own assumptions as articles of faith?

lifeisstillgood 6y ago
Oh hell - this is politics not mathematics. We as humans are being outclassed in a digital fight with tech companies. We need to have software on our side individually. But we also need the political environment for that. A generation or two ago most of the western world fought wars over the spoils of the industrial revolution - and built a political-economic environment that benefitted individuals and shared the wealth more so than in hundreds of years. The countries that do this again for the digital revolution are going to benefit as much as the west did last time. It might not be us. Writing the software to guide our lives is the easy part. It's not about social media - that's just the obvious part. This is going to be about all parts of our lives - banking software that considers your long term budget and stops you buying the crap item on amazon. Software that sits down each evening and reviews how you spoke with your wife / child / co worker I am going to have to put this into a book form to gain any traction - plus it's 1 am so I am likely not making best sense, but this is so inherent in the technology it just seems obvious as a next step. We will be guided by technology - we cannot possibly absorb all the information in the world so something will curate for us. The political challenge of the 2-C is defining what does the curation and on what terms. Facebook optimising for engagement is wrong on all counts. What is right is politics not algorithm.
dreamcompiler 6y ago
I can certainly define "balanced or beneficial" for me, and I read the parent's post as suggesting just that: Giving me control over what feeds I see and codifying my right to individual control with the force of law.

lifeisstillgood 6y ago

Oh hell - this is politics not mathematics. We as humans are being outclassed in a digital fight with tech companies. We need to have software on our side individually. But we also need the political environment for that. A generation or two ago most of the western world fought wars over the spoils of the industrial revolution - and built a political-economic environment that benefitted individuals and shared the wealth more so than in hundreds of years. The countries that do this again for the digital revolution are going to benefit as much as the west did last time. It might not be us. Writing the software to guide our lives is the easy part. It's not about social media - that's just the obvious part. This is going to be about all parts of our lives - banking software that considers your long term budget and stops you buying the crap item on amazon. Software that sits down each evening and reviews how you spoke with your wife / child / co worker I am going to have to put this into a book form to gain any traction - plus it's 1 am so I am likely not making best sense, but this is so inherent in the technology it just seems obvious as a next step. We will be guided by technology - we cannot possibly absorb all the information in the world so something will curate for us. The political challenge of the 2-C is defining what does the curation and on what terms. Facebook optimising for engagement is wrong on all counts. What is right is politics not algorithm.

dreamcompiler 6y ago

I can certainly define "balanced or beneficial" for me, and I read the parent's post as suggesting just that: Giving me control over what feeds I see and codifying my right to individual control with the force of law.