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If you want to ride on the street you get the 500, 600 or 650. The 1000 is a dedicated track weapon and riding more than 30 minutes to an hour on the street wit

If you want to ride on the street you get the 500, 600 or 650. The 1000 is a dedicated track weapon and riding more than 30 minutes to an hour on the street with result in posterior and back pain (the seat is designed for full tuck/lean off, not the upright position you often use in traffic). Remember that it’s about fast as a six figure sports car, so $17k for a track only vehicle is a bargain.

loeg 6y ago
I've ridden a 600cc in the past, but don't have personal experience with the CBR / 1000RR model. Thanks.
bigiain 6y ago
That's _you_ and people like specifically, not "you" as in "everybody". The 500 and 650 are totally different styles of bike, and the 600RR is no less track focussed and ergonomically compromised than the 1000RR. Lots of people ride "dedicated track weapons" on the street. The ergonomics are focussed, sure. But so are high heels - and nobody claims they are "dedicated runway footwear", people choose to wear them in spite of or even because of the challenge in wearing them - because the results are rewarding for those people. I don't wear high heels, but I've owned an R1, and yeah it's uncomfortable. I also own a "dedicated track weapon" 125cc two stroke (a Cagiva Mito), and I ride it in traffic all the time because it's fun. Stupidly fun - big shit eating grin type stupidly fun commuting 15 mins thru city traffic to get to work type fun. And I do dumb shit like 1,200+km trips on it as well, in spite of owning much more sensible "touring bikes" (a Ducati Monster and a Honda VFR800), because for _me_ - sometimes the advantages of having my stupid little race bike for the twisty bits of road on the way is _totally_ worth the pain of riding it on the "boring bits of road" in between. And I'm not saying this as a flexible-bodied speed freak teenager - I'm 53, somewhat overweight, and need to preload on anti inflammatories to get through a full 10-12 hour day ride on a "full tuck" sports bike. But I do, and for _me_ it's worth it. That $17k buys you a 2.8 second 0-60 time, and a sub 10 second 1/4 mile time - assuming you are capable of riding those (I'll totally admit it's way more capable a bike than I am a rider). It's astonishingly fast, and a bargain for a street legal toy. It's a good half second faster over the 1/4 mile than the fastest time for a stock Tesla or Lamborghini. Any half reliable sub 10 second street car has probably spent more than $17k in engine mods. A talented rider can run 9.8second quarters all night without voiding the warranty on a CBR1000RR...
japhyr 6y ago
I put 40k miles on a CBR 600 in the early 2000s. I lived in NYC at the time, and I rode most weekends and took annual trips to Florida, and rode it all the way to the Pacific once. I sold it when I moved to an island in Alaska with few roads, but if I had stayed in the lower 48 I would have moved up to a 900 or 1000. I was very happy to learn on a 600, but eventually I kept wishing for more power at lower rpms.

loeg 6y ago

I've ridden a 600cc in the past, but don't have personal experience with the CBR / 1000RR model. Thanks.

bigiain 6y ago

That's _you_ and people like specifically, not "you" as in "everybody". The 500 and 650 are totally different styles of bike, and the 600RR is no less track focussed and ergonomically compromised than the 1000RR. Lots of people ride "dedicated track weapons" on the street. The ergonomics are focussed, sure. But so are high heels - and nobody claims they are "dedicated runway footwear", people choose to wear them in spite of or even because of the challenge in wearing them - because the results are rewarding for those people. I don't wear high heels, but I've owned an R1, and yeah it's uncomfortable. I also own a "dedicated track weapon" 125cc two stroke (a Cagiva Mito), and I ride it in traffic all the time because it's fun. Stupidly fun - big shit eating grin type stupidly fun commuting 15 mins thru city traffic to get to work type fun. And I do dumb shit like 1,200+km trips on it as well, in spite of owning much more sensible "touring bikes" (a Ducati Monster and a Honda VFR800), because for _me_ - sometimes the advantages of having my stupid little race bike for the twisty bits of road on the way is _totally_ worth the pain of riding it on the "boring bits of road" in between. And I'm not saying this as a flexible-bodied speed freak teenager - I'm 53, somewhat overweight, and need to preload on anti inflammatories to get through a full 10-12 hour day ride on a "full tuck" sports bike. But I do, and for _me_ it's worth it. That $17k buys you a 2.8 second 0-60 time, and a sub 10 second 1/4 mile time - assuming you are capable of riding those (I'll totally admit it's way more capable a bike than I am a rider). It's astonishingly fast, and a bargain for a street legal toy. It's a good half second faster over the 1/4 mile than the fastest time for a stock Tesla or Lamborghini. Any half reliable sub 10 second street car has probably spent more than $17k in engine mods. A talented rider can run 9.8second quarters all night without voiding the warranty on a CBR1000RR...

japhyr 6y ago

I put 40k miles on a CBR 600 in the early 2000s. I lived in NYC at the time, and I rode most weekends and took annual trips to Florida, and rode it all the way to the Pacific once. I sold it when I moved to an island in Alaska with few roads, but if I had stayed in the lower 48 I would have moved up to a 900 or 1000. I was very happy to learn on a 600, but eventually I kept wishing for more power at lower rpms.