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the only reasonable alternative if gitlab gets dmca'd again is to use gitee based in china.

by fibers 6y ago

nomdep 6y ago
To use anything based in China will only cause more oppresion.
- fibers 6y ago
  i don't understand? this is a pretty simple solution since these large megacorps are quick to enforce their own will on the FOSS community for bs IP reasons.
- mariuolo 6y ago
  > To use anything based in China will only cause more oppresion. How? It's not like China has the greatest respect for intellectual property.
  - Santosh83 6y ago
    That's not the point. It'd be a symbolic admission of defeat to anyone from the US or a Western country to have to move to Gitee.
    - pengaru 6y ago
      > It'd be a symbolic admission of defeat to anyone from the US or a Western country to have to move to Gitee. Maybe that's the point. If all the valuable engineering projects leave the West because the West's laws are that dysfunctional, maybe the West will be forced to reevaluate them.
jlokier 6y ago
It's not actually necessary to use a Git hosting service. Git itself works just fine without one. There are many other project hosting alternatives as well. E.g. Canonical's Launchpad, GNU Savannah, etc.
- fibers 6y ago
  the dmca's were a result of 'intent' which the law is more than willing to enforce imaginary IP laws. this becomes an eternal cat and mouse game where the foss community will tend to lose against these leeches.
- jpeeler 6y ago
  It's not technically required with direct pulls, but practically there has to be some way of coordinating patch exchanges. Even when using mailing lists for sending patches, the list hosting provider is subject to disrupting development in the event of a takedown. Also, aren't both Launchpad and Savannah both code hosting repositories too?
  - rovr138 6y ago
    >Even when using mailing lists for sending patches, the list hosting provider is subject to disrupting development in the event of a takedown. But my inbox, and everyone's inbox that participates in it, would have a copy. I think mailing lists solve A LOT of problems that we are having now.
wizzwizz4 6y ago
Or https://codeberg.org https://codeberg.org or https://sr.ht/ https://sr.ht/ or just a bog-standard git repo served over HTTPS on https://youtube-dl.org/ https://youtube-dl.org/.

the only reasonable alternative if gitlab gets dmca'd again is to use gitee based in china.

by fibers 6y ago

the only reasonable alternative if gitlab gets dmca'd again is to use gitee based in china.

nomdep 6y ago

To use anything based in China will only cause more oppresion.

fibers 6y ago
i don't understand? this is a pretty simple solution since these large megacorps are quick to enforce their own will on the FOSS community for bs IP reasons.
mariuolo 6y ago
> To use anything based in China will only cause more oppresion. How? It's not like China has the greatest respect for intellectual property.
- Santosh83 6y ago
  That's not the point. It'd be a symbolic admission of defeat to anyone from the US or a Western country to have to move to Gitee.
  - pengaru 6y ago
    > It'd be a symbolic admission of defeat to anyone from the US or a Western country to have to move to Gitee. Maybe that's the point. If all the valuable engineering projects leave the West because the West's laws are that dysfunctional, maybe the West will be forced to reevaluate them.

jlokier 6y ago

It's not actually necessary to use a Git hosting service. Git itself works just fine without one. There are many other project hosting alternatives as well. E.g. Canonical's Launchpad, GNU Savannah, etc.

fibers 6y ago
the dmca's were a result of 'intent' which the law is more than willing to enforce imaginary IP laws. this becomes an eternal cat and mouse game where the foss community will tend to lose against these leeches.
jpeeler 6y ago
It's not technically required with direct pulls, but practically there has to be some way of coordinating patch exchanges. Even when using mailing lists for sending patches, the list hosting provider is subject to disrupting development in the event of a takedown. Also, aren't both Launchpad and Savannah both code hosting repositories too?
- rovr138 6y ago
  >Even when using mailing lists for sending patches, the list hosting provider is subject to disrupting development in the event of a takedown. But my inbox, and everyone's inbox that participates in it, would have a copy. I think mailing lists solve A LOT of problems that we are having now.

wizzwizz4 6y ago

Or https://codeberg.org https://codeberg.org or https://sr.ht/ https://sr.ht/ or just a bog-standard git repo served over HTTPS on https://youtube-dl.org/ https://youtube-dl.org/.