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The MathML support in Firefox and Safari are barely usable. Even if my target audience all browsed on Firefox and Safari, I'd avoid MathML.

the_other 6y ago
Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good. Use MathML, put up noticea that your content only works in Safari and Firefox. These are all attacks against Google. FIGHT!
- netheril96 6y ago
  Have you misunderstood me? MathML does not work well even in Safari and Firefox, and that is why they are avoided.
  - coldtea 6y ago
    >MathML does not work well even in Safari and Firefox Parent understood that, that's why they said "Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good". They mean "It might not work too well, but it works well enough to use".
  - the_other 6y ago
    I understood well what was said about Safari and Firefox. I may have misunderstood how well it works/doesn’t in Chrome. For right or wrong I understood that MathML didn’t work at all in Chrome. If there’s some support for a feature, even if it’s ropey, and if there’s no support for that feature in Chrome, then using that feature attacks Chrome. People will have to use other browsers in order to use that feature. They might then continue using that browser.
    - barefootliam 6y ago
      MathML is being added to WebKit; an implementation offered for Safari was rejected years ago.
drran 6y ago
It looks quite capable: https://mdn.mozillademos.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/MathML_Project/MathML_Torture_Test$samples/MathML_Torture_Test?revision=1506691 https://mdn.mozillademos.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/MathML_Proje... https://mdn.mozillademos.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/MathML_Project/Extras$samples/Mixing_with_other_markups?revision=385073 https://mdn.mozillademos.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/MathML_Proje... https://mdn.mozillademos.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/MathML_Project/Extras$samples/MathML_Tooltip?revision=385073 https://mdn.mozillademos.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/MathML_Proje...
- repiret 6y ago
  I followed your first link on Safari. Some things look fine. Some things are ugly, which is too bad but tolerable. If it was just that, I might consider MathML. But some things are rendered in a way that changes their meaning, and that’s totally unacceptable.
lern_too_spel 6y ago
MathML support in Blink is under active development. https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=6606 https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=6606

the_other 6y ago

Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good. Use MathML, put up noticea that your content only works in Safari and Firefox. These are all attacks against Google. FIGHT!

netheril96 6y ago
Have you misunderstood me? MathML does not work well even in Safari and Firefox, and that is why they are avoided.
- coldtea 6y ago
  >MathML does not work well even in Safari and Firefox Parent understood that, that's why they said "Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good". They mean "It might not work too well, but it works well enough to use".
- the_other 6y ago
  I understood well what was said about Safari and Firefox. I may have misunderstood how well it works/doesn’t in Chrome. For right or wrong I understood that MathML didn’t work at all in Chrome. If there’s some support for a feature, even if it’s ropey, and if there’s no support for that feature in Chrome, then using that feature attacks Chrome. People will have to use other browsers in order to use that feature. They might then continue using that browser.
  - barefootliam 6y ago
    MathML is being added to WebKit; an implementation offered for Safari was rejected years ago.

drran 6y ago

It looks quite capable: https://mdn.mozillademos.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/MathML_Project/MathML_Torture_Test$samples/MathML_Torture_Test?revision=1506691 https://mdn.mozillademos.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/MathML_Proje... https://mdn.mozillademos.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/MathML_Project/Extras$samples/Mixing_with_other_markups?revision=385073 https://mdn.mozillademos.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/MathML_Proje... https://mdn.mozillademos.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/MathML_Project/Extras$samples/MathML_Tooltip?revision=385073 https://mdn.mozillademos.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/MathML_Proje...

repiret 6y ago
I followed your first link on Safari. Some things look fine. Some things are ugly, which is too bad but tolerable. If it was just that, I might consider MathML. But some things are rendered in a way that changes their meaning, and that’s totally unacceptable.

lern_too_spel 6y ago

MathML support in Blink is under active development. https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=6606 https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=6606