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there are a lot of implementations (some of them obsolete): https://eugenkiss.github.io/7guis/implementations https://eugenkiss.github.io/7guis/implementations

by pdamoc 6y ago

otabdeveloper4 6y ago
I poked around, and it seems nobody managed to implement the spreadsheet task. I guess this says a lot, not sure though if about the implementors or the frameworks.
- coldtea 6y ago
  Well, not a lot seem to have bothered. There are JS spreadsheet implementations in 200 lines, so it's not that it's very difficult, more like this didn't have enough exposure to attract programmers yet -- for example there's not a Cocoa or SwiftUI implementation.
- thomasqbrady 6y ago
  Reading through the challenges, the last one seemed like a big leap. Made me think of the “learn to draw” meme that progresses quickly from simple shapes to a simple cartoon and a god leap to a super realistically rendered pencil drawing.
  - mst 6y ago
    The spreadsheet task does rather feel like "draw the rest of the owl", yes.
  - diggan 6y ago
    It might seem complicated at a glance, but if you look through the implementation guidelines / rules / description, it's not that big of a leap. It has clear requirements and the paper[1] outlines everything together with example code (in both JavaFX and ScalaFX), and it's not a "god leap" if you have at least a bit of experience building UIs. - [1] "Comparison of Object-Oriented and Functional Programming for GUI Development" - Eugen Kiss - Page 49 - 3.9 Cells
    - WorldMaker 6y ago
      Neither is it really a "god leap" in the art analogue either, that's what makes it a particularly apt analogy, I think. The implication in the art example is "iterate the above techniques a large number of times to obtain a finished result like this". It seems like a "god leap" because most people don't see the thousands/millions of iterated steps, they see the finished product as a finished product without the intuition of the component parts. That does seem to apply to the Cells project here: most of the same underlying components but yes iterated far enough and long enough it seems like a more insurmountable leap than it should without the right intuition pump.
- retendo 6y ago
  Related: Build your own Excel 365 in an hour with F# https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bnm71YEt_lI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bnm71YEt_lI

there are a lot of implementations (some of them obsolete): https://eugenkiss.github.io/7guis/implementations https://eugenkiss.github.io/7guis/implementations

by pdamoc 6y ago

there are a lot of implementations (some of them obsolete): https://eugenkiss.github.io/7guis/implementations https://eugenkiss.github.io/7guis/implementations

otabdeveloper4 6y ago

I poked around, and it seems nobody managed to implement the spreadsheet task. I guess this says a lot, not sure though if about the implementors or the frameworks.

coldtea 6y ago
Well, not a lot seem to have bothered. There are JS spreadsheet implementations in 200 lines, so it's not that it's very difficult, more like this didn't have enough exposure to attract programmers yet -- for example there's not a Cocoa or SwiftUI implementation.
thomasqbrady 6y ago
Reading through the challenges, the last one seemed like a big leap. Made me think of the “learn to draw” meme that progresses quickly from simple shapes to a simple cartoon and a god leap to a super realistically rendered pencil drawing.
- mst 6y ago
  The spreadsheet task does rather feel like "draw the rest of the owl", yes.
- diggan 6y ago
  It might seem complicated at a glance, but if you look through the implementation guidelines / rules / description, it's not that big of a leap. It has clear requirements and the paper[1] outlines everything together with example code (in both JavaFX and ScalaFX), and it's not a "god leap" if you have at least a bit of experience building UIs. - [1] "Comparison of Object-Oriented and Functional Programming for GUI Development" - Eugen Kiss - Page 49 - 3.9 Cells
  - WorldMaker 6y ago
    Neither is it really a "god leap" in the art analogue either, that's what makes it a particularly apt analogy, I think. The implication in the art example is "iterate the above techniques a large number of times to obtain a finished result like this". It seems like a "god leap" because most people don't see the thousands/millions of iterated steps, they see the finished product as a finished product without the intuition of the component parts. That does seem to apply to the Cells project here: most of the same underlying components but yes iterated far enough and long enough it seems like a more insurmountable leap than it should without the right intuition pump.
retendo 6y ago
Related: Build your own Excel 365 in an hour with F# https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bnm71YEt_lI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bnm71YEt_lI