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Note that copyleft requires IP to exist, otherwise you can't ask people to give you the sources of their improved version of your copylefted code. The world wit

by est31 6y ago

Note that copyleft requires IP to exist, otherwise you can't ask people to give you the sources of their improved version of your copylefted code. The world without IP laws might not look like the FLOSS dream world where everything is free, but more like a world where source code is treated like a major trade secret, where the engineers can't even access code they wrote themselves outside of specially designated rooms. Something that Google has, giving most proper engineer employees access to petabytes of source code would be unthinkable. If no IP laws existed, you wouldn't be able to build many software businesses. Yes, people would still want folks to build custom software for them, manage computers, etc, and you could still charge hourly rates, because it'd still be work. But overall the demand for software engineers would be lower I think, which would mean less money for them.

bergstromm466 6y ago
Thanks, I realize I was not as clear as I wanted to be in my comment above 1) I wrote: > What would a F/LOSS world, without IP enforcement, BUT with authorship claims and a shared record of 'who was first', look like? I'd evolve this to: What would a F/LOSS world look like with a system that rewards copying and giving attribution (by being able to find, and getting to work with, other humans that have complementary skillsets), but that doesn't pretend that humans can 'steal' something that is a non-rival resource (software/digital media) [simple example: I can give someone a blueprint of a bike, and I wouldn't lose (access) to my own]? What would a system look like that focuses on tracking authorship claims, which helps humanity see which teams achieved what (a shared record of 'who was first' that helps assess the productivity of a certain team)? 2) My second argument comes with the way our economic system commoditizes information, creating essentially a world with 'information feudalism'. My question is: is this inevitable? Or can we create non-rival ways of acknowledging wealth? [1] Sensorica and Mikorizal are moving away from dollars, euros, etc. and towards asset backed accounting, with the use of the Resource Event Agent (REA) accounting model, in what they call an 'Open Value Network' (OVN). An Open Value Network inverts the closed corporate Value/Supply Chain accounting. A 1kg bag of carrots stays a 1kg bag of carrots, instead of becoming denominated in dollars, euros or pesos [2]. This means we start being able to see the flows of resources flowing through our communities. This has never existed before so it's hard to describe. I'm glad I got to clarify thanks to your comment - also helps my own thought processes I'd be curious to hear if this resonated, or made some sense to you? [1] https://eric.harris-braun.com/blog/2007/11/05/id-55 https://eric.harris-braun.com/blog/2007/11/05/id-55 [2] https://medium.com/metacurrency-project/the-metacurrency-myth-8db61ed14fb8 https://medium.com/metacurrency-project/the-metacurrency-myt...

by est31 6y ago

bergstromm466 6y ago

Thanks, I realize I was not as clear as I wanted to be in my comment above 1) I wrote: > What would a F/LOSS world, without IP enforcement, BUT with authorship claims and a shared record of 'who was first', look like? I'd evolve this to: What would a F/LOSS world look like with a system that rewards copying and giving attribution (by being able to find, and getting to work with, other humans that have complementary skillsets), but that doesn't pretend that humans can 'steal' something that is a non-rival resource (software/digital media) [simple example: I can give someone a blueprint of a bike, and I wouldn't lose (access) to my own]? What would a system look like that focuses on tracking authorship claims, which helps humanity see which teams achieved what (a shared record of 'who was first' that helps assess the productivity of a certain team)? 2) My second argument comes with the way our economic system commoditizes information, creating essentially a world with 'information feudalism'. My question is: is this inevitable? Or can we create non-rival ways of acknowledging wealth? [1] Sensorica and Mikorizal are moving away from dollars, euros, etc. and towards asset backed accounting, with the use of the Resource Event Agent (REA) accounting model, in what they call an 'Open Value Network' (OVN). An Open Value Network inverts the closed corporate Value/Supply Chain accounting. A 1kg bag of carrots stays a 1kg bag of carrots, instead of becoming denominated in dollars, euros or pesos [2]. This means we start being able to see the flows of resources flowing through our communities. This has never existed before so it's hard to describe. I'm glad I got to clarify thanks to your comment - also helps my own thought processes I'd be curious to hear if this resonated, or made some sense to you? [1] https://eric.harris-braun.com/blog/2007/11/05/id-55 https://eric.harris-braun.com/blog/2007/11/05/id-55 [2] https://medium.com/metacurrency-project/the-metacurrency-myth-8db61ed14fb8 https://medium.com/metacurrency-project/the-metacurrency-myt...