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I just came out of months of hard lockdown in Melbourne. Everyone wants to downplay our results. But we went hard and obeyed the rules. I really do think we ac

I just came out of months of hard lockdown in Melbourne. Everyone wants to downplay our results. But we went hard and obeyed the rules. I really do think we acted exceptionally as the public. I see what other places with outbreaks are doing, and it seems very lax.

m0zg 6y ago
You've only postponed the inevitable though. Virus is gonna virus - it's not going anywhere, ever. I'm not downplaying. I really hope you've used this time to prepare and didn't just sit on your behind hoping it'd go away.
- markdown 6y ago
  > You've only postponed the inevitable though. You mean "only" given most people another year or two with their elderly?
  - shard972 6y ago
    Some lost the chance during the lockdown mate
- L-four 6y ago
  It's not going away, we are actively getting rid of it.
  - m0zg 6y ago
    > getting rid of it No you aren't. There's no "getting rid of it". Spanish Flu (!) is still with us. It just kinda fizzled out after just about everyone got it over the course of 2+ years, but the virus still endemic, over a hundred years later.
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  - qeternity 6y ago
    What measures are getting rid of it permanently? Until there is a vaccine, herd immunity is the only path. We won’t rid ourselves completely and it will keep coming back.
    - m0zg 6y ago
      Not just "until there's a vaccine", but "until there's a safe and effective vaccine", which is a feat several orders of magnitude harder, that has not been achieved against any other coronavirus.
- rswail 6y ago
  We have substantially improved and increased both testing and tracing and isolation/quarantine. We have testing in industrial environments that are known to be dangerous (eg abbatoirs, health care). We have tracing that in the last week caught a single case in a school that ended up with over 800 people in isolation while being tested. Our tracing is not only close contacts, but the close contacts of contacts. This test/trace infrastructure is being replicated across the country and by next winter, we should have standardized processes. Work is ongoing in areas like health and aged care, and we are planning for how to bring international students (an important part of our economy) back for the start of the university year in March.
- chillacy 6y ago
  Measles is still out there, it has not been eliminated, there are cases in Africa and South America https://www.cdc.gov/globalhealth/measles/globalmeaslesoutbreaks.htm https://www.cdc.gov/globalhealth/measles/globalmeaslesoutbre... Yet we don’t really worry about it in the US: people are (mostly) vaccinated, and getting a visa to enter the country requires vaccination. Covid might be similar, except given anti vaccine sentiment the US, Australia might have to throw the US on the list alongside Brazil, Nigeria, and the Congo.

m0zg 6y ago

You've only postponed the inevitable though. Virus is gonna virus - it's not going anywhere, ever. I'm not downplaying. I really hope you've used this time to prepare and didn't just sit on your behind hoping it'd go away.

markdown 6y ago
> You've only postponed the inevitable though. You mean "only" given most people another year or two with their elderly?
- shard972 6y ago
  Some lost the chance during the lockdown mate
L-four 6y ago
It's not going away, we are actively getting rid of it.
- m0zg 6y ago
  > getting rid of it No you aren't. There's no "getting rid of it". Spanish Flu (!) is still with us. It just kinda fizzled out after just about everyone got it over the course of 2+ years, but the virus still endemic, over a hundred years later.
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- qeternity 6y ago
  What measures are getting rid of it permanently? Until there is a vaccine, herd immunity is the only path. We won’t rid ourselves completely and it will keep coming back.
  - m0zg 6y ago
    Not just "until there's a vaccine", but "until there's a safe and effective vaccine", which is a feat several orders of magnitude harder, that has not been achieved against any other coronavirus.
rswail 6y ago
We have substantially improved and increased both testing and tracing and isolation/quarantine. We have testing in industrial environments that are known to be dangerous (eg abbatoirs, health care). We have tracing that in the last week caught a single case in a school that ended up with over 800 people in isolation while being tested. Our tracing is not only close contacts, but the close contacts of contacts. This test/trace infrastructure is being replicated across the country and by next winter, we should have standardized processes. Work is ongoing in areas like health and aged care, and we are planning for how to bring international students (an important part of our economy) back for the start of the university year in March.
chillacy 6y ago
Measles is still out there, it has not been eliminated, there are cases in Africa and South America https://www.cdc.gov/globalhealth/measles/globalmeaslesoutbreaks.htm https://www.cdc.gov/globalhealth/measles/globalmeaslesoutbre... Yet we don’t really worry about it in the US: people are (mostly) vaccinated, and getting a visa to enter the country requires vaccination. Covid might be similar, except given anti vaccine sentiment the US, Australia might have to throw the US on the list alongside Brazil, Nigeria, and the Congo.