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I try really hard to not complain, because we're stuck with JavaScript. But I'd just love to tear it down and start again. For something that's supposed to be

I try really hard to not complain, because we're stuck with JavaScript. But I'd just love to tear it down and start again. For something that's supposed to be a universal programming language, it's got so much stuff like this that makes it so unfriendly to newbies.

danielheath 6y ago
If you don’t need ie11, wasm works everywhere. Emscripten can produce js as well as wasm, so you can build both and deliver according to support.
elevenoh 6y ago
>it's got so much stuff like this that makes it so unfriendly to newbies what's another one?
- andyp-kw 6y ago
  I work with many developers who don't speak English as a first language and they find things in JavaScript like .filter to be hard to grasp, but .Where in C# makes perfect sense to them because they understand that they're looking for something in a list "Where" their conditions are met. That's just one example of things in JavaScript that are poorly named for people to guess what they do.
  - naniwaduni 6y ago
    The opposite, actually. "filter" is just a verb you can look up in a dictionary and roughly understand its meaning. "Where" is grammatical and hard to grasp without a holistic understanding of English grammar. Linguistic Moravec paradox, if you will. Now, explaining Ruby's collect/detect/inject/select/reject, that's a whole different matter...
    - andyp-kw 6y ago
      I don't care what it says in the dictionary, I'm going on real life cases from my colleagues in SEA who don't speak English as a first language.
- astura 6y ago
  Scope of var (they fixed this with let) Automatically creating a variable (with global scope) if you attempt to use a variable that doesn't exist. Semicolons are optional, except when they aren't. == and === (at minimum they should be reversed)
  - elevenoh 6y ago
    >Automatically creating a variable (with global scope) if you attempt to use a variable that doesn't exist. I just tested this as I think you're describing & it didn't create a global var. Could you give an example?
    - astura 6y ago
      https://stackoverflow.com/questions/53330616/please-explain-automatically-global-in-javascript https://stackoverflow.com/questions/53330616/please-explain-...

danielheath 6y ago

If you don’t need ie11, wasm works everywhere. Emscripten can produce js as well as wasm, so you can build both and deliver according to support.

elevenoh 6y ago

>it's got so much stuff like this that makes it so unfriendly to newbies what's another one?

andyp-kw 6y ago
I work with many developers who don't speak English as a first language and they find things in JavaScript like .filter to be hard to grasp, but .Where in C# makes perfect sense to them because they understand that they're looking for something in a list "Where" their conditions are met. That's just one example of things in JavaScript that are poorly named for people to guess what they do.
- naniwaduni 6y ago
  The opposite, actually. "filter" is just a verb you can look up in a dictionary and roughly understand its meaning. "Where" is grammatical and hard to grasp without a holistic understanding of English grammar. Linguistic Moravec paradox, if you will. Now, explaining Ruby's collect/detect/inject/select/reject, that's a whole different matter...
  - andyp-kw 6y ago
    I don't care what it says in the dictionary, I'm going on real life cases from my colleagues in SEA who don't speak English as a first language.
astura 6y ago
Scope of var (they fixed this with let) Automatically creating a variable (with global scope) if you attempt to use a variable that doesn't exist. Semicolons are optional, except when they aren't. == and === (at minimum they should be reversed)
- elevenoh 6y ago
  >Automatically creating a variable (with global scope) if you attempt to use a variable that doesn't exist. I just tested this as I think you're describing & it didn't create a global var. Could you give an example?
  - astura 6y ago
    https://stackoverflow.com/questions/53330616/please-explain-automatically-global-in-javascript https://stackoverflow.com/questions/53330616/please-explain-...