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Welp, instead they appear to have doubled down: > The old source code in master is no longer under AGPL because it's been the reason of this week's trolling co

by Latty 6y ago

Welp, instead they appear to have doubled down: > The old source code in master is no longer under AGPL because it's been the reason of this week's trolling comments "I re-licensed code you wrote without permission because some other people were trolling me." is certainly an interesting admission, even if you take "trolling" at face value, when they appear to use it to mean "calling out our breaking of the license".

elmo2you 6y ago
Can they even pull the AGPL license? The re-licensing of current/new code is one thing, but removing the license on the old code? How is that possible? What about copies elsewhere, are those no longer validly licensed? That's not how I thought licenses work. These guys just appear to go from bad to worse, ignorantly making shit up as they go (on a road to certain self-destruction, if you'd ask me). Also, why don't I hear more people about how GitHub was used to not at all host any code, but instead only as a (marketing) referral point for proprietary stuff somewhere else? I said goodbye to GitHub a while ago, so I wasn't aware this this had become acceptable practice. Anyways, if this was a court case .. this would probably be the point where a judge would look these fellows straight in the eyes and say something along the lines of: "With arrogant behavior you so clearly displayed, you yourselves have squandered any of the sympathy, lenience, and benefit of a doubt I usually give to defendants, and will hereby sentence you to the harshest possible punishment. Not only to give a clear indication that your behavior is in no way acceptable. But also to serve as a reminder for any future parasites, whenever they think of making up their own rules as they see fit". Either way, I think this shit is going to haunt these guys. Unless I got it all completely wrong, probably well deserved too.
- pseudalopex 6y ago
  The AGPL specifies all rights are irrevocable.
vr46 6y ago
Good grief, the (moving) discussion is terrible and is not getting better. The maintainer looks embarrassed and is doubling down, has not had an opportunity to save face and this looks quite humiliating. Gah. We have to let people save face, maybe several times. A public discussion like this is just awful.

by Latty 6y ago

elmo2you 6y ago

Can they even pull the AGPL license? The re-licensing of current/new code is one thing, but removing the license on the old code? How is that possible? What about copies elsewhere, are those no longer validly licensed? That's not how I thought licenses work. These guys just appear to go from bad to worse, ignorantly making shit up as they go (on a road to certain self-destruction, if you'd ask me). Also, why don't I hear more people about how GitHub was used to not at all host any code, but instead only as a (marketing) referral point for proprietary stuff somewhere else? I said goodbye to GitHub a while ago, so I wasn't aware this this had become acceptable practice. Anyways, if this was a court case .. this would probably be the point where a judge would look these fellows straight in the eyes and say something along the lines of: "With arrogant behavior you so clearly displayed, you yourselves have squandered any of the sympathy, lenience, and benefit of a doubt I usually give to defendants, and will hereby sentence you to the harshest possible punishment. Not only to give a clear indication that your behavior is in no way acceptable. But also to serve as a reminder for any future parasites, whenever they think of making up their own rules as they see fit". Either way, I think this shit is going to haunt these guys. Unless I got it all completely wrong, probably well deserved too.

pseudalopex 6y ago
The AGPL specifies all rights are irrevocable.

vr46 6y ago

Good grief, the (moving) discussion is terrible and is not getting better. The maintainer looks embarrassed and is doubling down, has not had an opportunity to save face and this looks quite humiliating. Gah. We have to let people save face, maybe several times. A public discussion like this is just awful.