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I’m sorry, but this comment is in bad faith. Plants do no have brains, they do not emote or feel pain. Someone will chime in with a "well actually ..." no doubt

I’m sorry, but this comment is in bad faith. Plants do no have brains, they do not emote or feel pain. Someone will chime in with a "well actually ..." no doubt, but to ascribe any form of equivalence between plants and animals in this way is a bad faith argument. And more to the point: our descendants horror will be that we knew we were causing the suffering of living beings and yet we did it anyway.

lenkite 6y ago
To nitpick: emote and feeling pain != sentience and thinking. But let's leave this discussion alone, I meant that in humour.
vezycash 6y ago
>Plants do no have brains, they do not emote or feel pain. Science says plant feel & can hear esp. whilst being eaten by insect or are cut. https://science.howstuffworks.com/life/botany/plants-feel-pain.htm https://science.howstuffworks.com/life/botany/plants-feel-pa... It's also proven that plants communicate with one another, and can share nutrients with one another, even warn nearby plants to get ready for attacks. https://www.livescience.com/1909-plants-communicate-warn-danger.html https://www.livescience.com/1909-plants-communicate-warn-dan...
dredmorbius 6y ago
Trees have friends, feel loneliness, scream with pain and communicate underground via the “woodwide web”. Some act as parents and good neighbours. Others do more than just throw shade – they’re brutal bullies to rival species. The young ones take risks with their drinking and leaf-dropping then remember the hard lessons from their mistakes. It’s a hard-knock life. A book called The Hidden Life of Trees is not an obvious bestseller but it’s easy to see the popular appeal of German forester Peter Wohlleben’s claims – they are so anthropomorphic. Certainly, a walk in the park feels different when you imagine the network of roots crackling with sappy chat beneath your feet. We don’t know the half of what’s going on underground and beneath the bark, he says: “We have been looking at nature for the last 100 years like [it is] a machine.” "The man who thinks trees talk to each other" https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/sep/12/peter-wohlleben-man-who-believes-trees-talk-to-each-other https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/sep/12/peter-wo... Building off othe dendritic consciousness structures, my own suspicion isn't that trees have brains, but that trees are components of a larger brain-analogue --- forests or ecosystems.

lenkite 6y ago

To nitpick: emote and feeling pain != sentience and thinking. But let's leave this discussion alone, I meant that in humour.

vezycash 6y ago

>Plants do no have brains, they do not emote or feel pain. Science says plant feel & can hear esp. whilst being eaten by insect or are cut. https://science.howstuffworks.com/life/botany/plants-feel-pain.htm https://science.howstuffworks.com/life/botany/plants-feel-pa... It's also proven that plants communicate with one another, and can share nutrients with one another, even warn nearby plants to get ready for attacks. https://www.livescience.com/1909-plants-communicate-warn-danger.html https://www.livescience.com/1909-plants-communicate-warn-dan...

dredmorbius 6y ago

Trees have friends, feel loneliness, scream with pain and communicate underground via the “woodwide web”. Some act as parents and good neighbours. Others do more than just throw shade – they’re brutal bullies to rival species. The young ones take risks with their drinking and leaf-dropping then remember the hard lessons from their mistakes. It’s a hard-knock life. A book called The Hidden Life of Trees is not an obvious bestseller but it’s easy to see the popular appeal of German forester Peter Wohlleben’s claims – they are so anthropomorphic. Certainly, a walk in the park feels different when you imagine the network of roots crackling with sappy chat beneath your feet. We don’t know the half of what’s going on underground and beneath the bark, he says: “We have been looking at nature for the last 100 years like [it is] a machine.” "The man who thinks trees talk to each other" https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/sep/12/peter-wohlleben-man-who-believes-trees-talk-to-each-other https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/sep/12/peter-wo... Building off othe dendritic consciousness structures, my own suspicion isn't that trees have brains, but that trees are components of a larger brain-analogue --- forests or ecosystems.