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Good work. Ridiculous that the NY Post and Fox weren't able to do this themselves. But glad the matter is settled.

Ozzie_osman 6y ago
Is it settled though? All we know is that one email is real. What do the other emails contain? Are those emails real? Lots of unverified claims made from one camp, and lots of dodging those claims from the other.
- googthrowaway42 6y ago
  > unverified This term doesn't mean anything. It's just a meme. How does one actually "verify" anything? When people use this term they mean "someone I trust (e.g. mainstream media) concurs with this statement". Even if this email has a legitimate DKIM signature it doesn't mean that someone didn't hack these accounts and send these emails or that v.pozharskyi.ukraine@gmail.com actually belongs to the person it is purported to belong to. It could be that some nation state forged the DKIM signature or that they have operatives within Google that did this on their behalf. We could go on.
JMTQp8lwXL 6y ago
Validating DKIM doesn't tell you much. It doesn't tell you who was sitting behind the machine when the Send button was clicked.
- ralfn 6y ago
  It does tell you when though.
  - davrosthedalek 6y ago
    Only if you believe that google is a) trustworthy and b) is the only owner of the private key. I would believe in a), but not necessarily b).
    - ralfn 6y ago
      I don't have to believe any of that. I just have to find it slightly more likely Bannon isn't that smart, that well connected, that technically skilled nor planning that far ahead. They can't be idiots and evil geniuses at the same time, you know. And maybe it the luxury of some distance (I'm not american not do I live there). So it's quite easy to see: they are mostly idiots taking advantage of economic inequality that is the result of decades of democrats doing nothing but lip service to the middle class. If they hadn't screwed that up, these same people wouldn't be Trump or Biden fans. They wouldn't be into politics at all. They would be into sport, their job, dating, etc.
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Is it settled though? All we know is that one email is real. What do the other emails contain? Are those emails real? Lots of unverified claims made from one camp, and lots of dodging those claims from the other.

googthrowaway42 6y ago
> unverified This term doesn't mean anything. It's just a meme. How does one actually "verify" anything? When people use this term they mean "someone I trust (e.g. mainstream media) concurs with this statement". Even if this email has a legitimate DKIM signature it doesn't mean that someone didn't hack these accounts and send these emails or that v.pozharskyi.ukraine@gmail.com actually belongs to the person it is purported to belong to. It could be that some nation state forged the DKIM signature or that they have operatives within Google that did this on their behalf. We could go on.

JMTQp8lwXL 6y ago

Validating DKIM doesn't tell you much. It doesn't tell you who was sitting behind the machine when the Send button was clicked.

ralfn 6y ago
It does tell you when though.
- davrosthedalek 6y ago
  Only if you believe that google is a) trustworthy and b) is the only owner of the private key. I would believe in a), but not necessarily b).
  - ralfn 6y ago
    I don't have to believe any of that. I just have to find it slightly more likely Bannon isn't that smart, that well connected, that technically skilled nor planning that far ahead. They can't be idiots and evil geniuses at the same time, you know. And maybe it the luxury of some distance (I'm not american not do I live there). So it's quite easy to see: they are mostly idiots taking advantage of economic inequality that is the result of decades of democrats doing nothing but lip service to the middle class. If they hadn't screwed that up, these same people wouldn't be Trump or Biden fans. They wouldn't be into politics at all. They would be into sport, their job, dating, etc.
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