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Look at the car's display in this video: https://youtu.be/RN5Qoei7v1k?t=2281 https://youtu.be/RN5Qoei7v1k?t=2281 The "lane" in front of it is wildly moving aro

Look at the car's display in this video: https://youtu.be/RN5Qoei7v1k?t=2281 https://youtu.be/RN5Qoei7v1k?t=2281 The "lane" in front of it is wildly moving around, so it's definitely misinterpreting the visual inputs.

xeromal 6y ago
As an owner of a tesla, the rendering on the screen and what the car actually does with the inputs don't always correlate. The rendering is purely for your own viewing pleasure. Hell, there's a disconnect where if you have the new autopilot computer but the old entertainment screen computer, it didn't even have the capability to render anything worthwhile but you still had self driving
- gamblor956 6y ago
  Given that the rendering on the screen is supposed to be showing the inputs the car thinks it is receiving, it is even more concerning to learn that what the car actually does isn't correlated with the inputs it is receiving.
  - sokoloff 6y ago
    That seems intentionally tortured logic. Why would it be a given for the rendering to show the inputs as received rather than being an entertaining caricature loosely related? Surely you don’t think the animations of the car’s battery being charged are realistic in any engineering or physical sense.
    - gamblor956 6y ago
      Because Tesla says that it is a rendering of what the car thinks it is seeing, meaning that the rendering is supposed to roughly correlate with the information upon which the FSD systems are acting. In contrast, the animations of a car battery being charged don't claim to be realistic in any sense, and they deliberately attempt not to be realistic: oversized images of batteries or other standardized iconography, stylized arrows or other indicators of charging "flow", etc.
- FartyMcFarter 6y ago
  But in this video, as soon as the FSD got engaged the car started driving towards the train... It doesn't look like the car had much understanding of what was going on.
  - jiofih 6y ago
    The driver enabled AP at that very moment, and disabled it half a second later, you can hardly take any conclusions from that.
  - mlindner 6y ago
    I've seen this several times in vieos with the new FSD, when you enable it suddenly for example when you're already stopped at a stop sign, it's not sure what state it's currently in and why it's stopped and assumes it should drive forward when you enable it from a stop as long as there's no physical objects in front of you. If you want to see longer FSD videos check out https://www.youtube.com/user/pilotjc78 https://www.youtube.com/user/pilotjc78
nullc 6y ago
I'm distracted by how unsafe the driver's use of the touchscreen is in that video.

xeromal 6y ago

As an owner of a tesla, the rendering on the screen and what the car actually does with the inputs don't always correlate. The rendering is purely for your own viewing pleasure. Hell, there's a disconnect where if you have the new autopilot computer but the old entertainment screen computer, it didn't even have the capability to render anything worthwhile but you still had self driving

gamblor956 6y ago
Given that the rendering on the screen is supposed to be showing the inputs the car thinks it is receiving, it is even more concerning to learn that what the car actually does isn't correlated with the inputs it is receiving.
- sokoloff 6y ago
  That seems intentionally tortured logic. Why would it be a given for the rendering to show the inputs as received rather than being an entertaining caricature loosely related? Surely you don’t think the animations of the car’s battery being charged are realistic in any engineering or physical sense.
  - gamblor956 6y ago
    Because Tesla says that it is a rendering of what the car thinks it is seeing, meaning that the rendering is supposed to roughly correlate with the information upon which the FSD systems are acting. In contrast, the animations of a car battery being charged don't claim to be realistic in any sense, and they deliberately attempt not to be realistic: oversized images of batteries or other standardized iconography, stylized arrows or other indicators of charging "flow", etc.
FartyMcFarter 6y ago
But in this video, as soon as the FSD got engaged the car started driving towards the train... It doesn't look like the car had much understanding of what was going on.
- jiofih 6y ago
  The driver enabled AP at that very moment, and disabled it half a second later, you can hardly take any conclusions from that.
- mlindner 6y ago
  I've seen this several times in vieos with the new FSD, when you enable it suddenly for example when you're already stopped at a stop sign, it's not sure what state it's currently in and why it's stopped and assumes it should drive forward when you enable it from a stop as long as there's no physical objects in front of you. If you want to see longer FSD videos check out https://www.youtube.com/user/pilotjc78 https://www.youtube.com/user/pilotjc78

nullc 6y ago

I'm distracted by how unsafe the driver's use of the touchscreen is in that video.