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That phone in https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/igor113/15886453/8307124/8307124_original.jpg https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/igor113/15886453/8307124/830... look

by tpmx 6y ago

That phone in https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/igor113/15886453/8307124/8307124_original.jpg https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/igor113/15886453/8307124/830... looks identical to an Ericsson Dialog: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ericsson_Dialog https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ericsson_Dialog (1964) Was there a soviet-era clone of this phone? Or maybe Ericsson (Sweden) actually exported this to the Soviet Union during the 70s? That metallic red facia/dial cover thing looks decidedly non-scandinavian-market. After tearing one down as a kid in the 80s I can attest to its mechanical robustness; I can certainly see why the soviet military would pick this model for their new submarine class in 1976.

bserge 6y ago
Could be, I'm pretty sure we had the exact same phone in the 90's. The USSR was pretty good at copying western tech and calling it their own. And they'd mass produce the shit out of everything, for the military, for civilians, everyone would get the same thing.
- tpmx 6y ago
  In retrospect it's kinda sad/funny that our "mortal enemy" at the time were using a clone of our landline phones. This was the same era when Sweden spent an insane amount of the national economy (like 5%) to develop and build a very large number of Draken and Viggen aircraft in order to defend Sweden in case the Soviets decided to invade. Do you recognize this ring sound? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If7x1qj-cYE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If7x1qj-cYE
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miahi 6y ago
It seems to be the real thing, not a knockoff. It has the L.M. Ericsson logo on the dial, like this one[1]. [1] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c9/Ericsson_Dialog_in_red.JPG https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c9/Ericsson...
- Libre___ 6y ago
  This pic looks like the real deal although I've seen Soviet Dialog clones traveling in eastern Europe. It does seem to be an export variant however, as the Swedish pulse dial system had the number 0 first: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cb/Dialog_1966_grau.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cb/Dialog_1... As an anecdote this is why the emergency number in Sweden used to be 90 000, in the dark or in a smoke-filled room you'd be able to feel your way to the last number(9), and then pull four short times from 0 to the finger stop to get emergency service.
  - tpmx 6y ago
    What separates the clones from the real deal? The curl of the cable?
    - Libre___ 6y ago
      It might have been a Diavox(https://www.ericsson.com/en/about-us/history/products/the-telephones/diavox-1978 https://www.ericsson.com/en/about-us/history/products/the-te...) clone actually, but it was mainly the Cyrillic markings on the back of it...
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rvba 6y ago
KGB and GRU were tasked to spy on whatever possible - a lot of things made in USSR was based on blueprints delivered by their agents.

by tpmx 6y ago

bserge 6y ago

Could be, I'm pretty sure we had the exact same phone in the 90's. The USSR was pretty good at copying western tech and calling it their own. And they'd mass produce the shit out of everything, for the military, for civilians, everyone would get the same thing.

tpmx 6y ago
In retrospect it's kinda sad/funny that our "mortal enemy" at the time were using a clone of our landline phones. This was the same era when Sweden spent an insane amount of the national economy (like 5%) to develop and build a very large number of Draken and Viggen aircraft in order to defend Sweden in case the Soviets decided to invade. Do you recognize this ring sound? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If7x1qj-cYE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If7x1qj-cYE
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miahi 6y ago

It seems to be the real thing, not a knockoff. It has the L.M. Ericsson logo on the dial, like this one[1]. [1] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c9/Ericsson_Dialog_in_red.JPG https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c9/Ericsson...

Libre___ 6y ago
This pic looks like the real deal although I've seen Soviet Dialog clones traveling in eastern Europe. It does seem to be an export variant however, as the Swedish pulse dial system had the number 0 first: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cb/Dialog_1966_grau.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cb/Dialog_1... As an anecdote this is why the emergency number in Sweden used to be 90 000, in the dark or in a smoke-filled room you'd be able to feel your way to the last number(9), and then pull four short times from 0 to the finger stop to get emergency service.
- tpmx 6y ago
  What separates the clones from the real deal? The curl of the cable?
  - Libre___ 6y ago
    It might have been a Diavox(https://www.ericsson.com/en/about-us/history/products/the-telephones/diavox-1978 https://www.ericsson.com/en/about-us/history/products/the-te...) clone actually, but it was mainly the Cyrillic markings on the back of it...
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rvba 6y ago

KGB and GRU were tasked to spy on whatever possible - a lot of things made in USSR was based on blueprints delivered by their agents.