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I strongly believe this has heavily affected my education. For half of secondary and whole high school I had to wake up at 6 to bus around 80 minutes to school

I strongly believe this has heavily affected my education. For half of secondary and whole high school I had to wake up at 6 to bus around 80 minutes to school (usually starting at 8:30). I barely kept awake during these early hours, I was also severely sleep-deprived and low on energy all that time. My grades were also sub-par. I had no motivation to pick up anything after school; even gave up on programming (which I started around 8 y.o.) Then I went to university and moved closer to the city centre. The lectures usually started at 9 or later. The quality of my sleep and live in general increased enormously. I was staying up later then before, yet I had more energy. Even managed to pick up new hobbies and come back to my tinkering with programming which lead to the start of my current career.

varispeed 6y ago
Are you me?
- odiroot 6y ago
  I doubt it, but I sympathise.
dorkwood 6y ago
It's funny that I'm less tired and have more energy as an adult than I did as a child (isn't it supposed to be the other way around?) It's pretty rare that I show up to work in a tired state, but it was a daily occurrence at school.
- WhompingWindows 6y ago
  Kids and teens need a lot more sleep, perhaps 2+ hours more than adults. I recall many slow mornings being harassed by my mom to get up already, it's time to go. Without a helpful mother, oof, I would have missed a lot more days of school.
jart 6y ago
What I'd do is just show up late to high school each day, walk into the vice principal's office and plead nolo contendere, and get a detention. Then by the end of the week I'd have enough detentions to roll them into a single saturday detention, so I'd show up to school then and bring my laptop and code which looked like work so they'd let me do it. Then I got a job at Google where they'd let me show up late and I'd talk in the cafeteria about all the coding I did while in saturday detention and people would be like, oh holy crap that was you?!
- TameAntelope 6y ago
  Ah, yeah this is what I should have done, but every adult I had around me treated detention like it was some kind of black mark. Then again, I don't think laptops were normalized enough, and would probably have been banned during Saturday detention. It's wonderful how you were able to use a system stacked against you for your own benefit, this is the kind of world I wish we could provide for everyone...

varispeed 6y ago

Are you me?

odiroot 6y ago
I doubt it, but I sympathise.

dorkwood 6y ago

It's funny that I'm less tired and have more energy as an adult than I did as a child (isn't it supposed to be the other way around?) It's pretty rare that I show up to work in a tired state, but it was a daily occurrence at school.

WhompingWindows 6y ago
Kids and teens need a lot more sleep, perhaps 2+ hours more than adults. I recall many slow mornings being harassed by my mom to get up already, it's time to go. Without a helpful mother, oof, I would have missed a lot more days of school.

jart 6y ago

What I'd do is just show up late to high school each day, walk into the vice principal's office and plead nolo contendere, and get a detention. Then by the end of the week I'd have enough detentions to roll them into a single saturday detention, so I'd show up to school then and bring my laptop and code which looked like work so they'd let me do it. Then I got a job at Google where they'd let me show up late and I'd talk in the cafeteria about all the coding I did while in saturday detention and people would be like, oh holy crap that was you?!

TameAntelope 6y ago
Ah, yeah this is what I should have done, but every adult I had around me treated detention like it was some kind of black mark. Then again, I don't think laptops were normalized enough, and would probably have been banned during Saturday detention. It's wonderful how you were able to use a system stacked against you for your own benefit, this is the kind of world I wish we could provide for everyone...