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Scientific studies have not proven that masks are effective in limiting the spread of the virus. Quite a lot EU countries suggest they can do more harm than goo

Scientific studies have not proven that masks are effective in limiting the spread of the virus. Quite a lot EU countries suggest they can do more harm than good if used sloppily. Masks and covid in the US have become political issue riddled with pseudo science from all sides.

thawaway1837 6y ago
There’s more studies than controlled ones. Sociological studies strongly suggest that masks do work. For example, there was a recent study that compared COVID hospitalization rates of districts in Tennessee that had mask mandates vs those which didn’t and the areas with mask mandates had significantly lower disease spread.
- DanBC 6y ago
  To be clear: you're saying that we don't see any benefit with rigorous science. We only see the benefit when we drop our standards of evidence.
  - Kaze404 6y ago
    How are sociological studies any less scientifical? Is the human behavior something not worth studying?
    - ThomPete 6y ago
      It is but with 70% being non-reproducible we should be careful what we conclude. Humans are not robots. Lots and lots of factors in play. I have worn mask since march and have no problem with doing so, I believe they help curve some, but scientific rigor not clickbaity politicized headlines on NYT is what is needed here.
    - 9HZZRfNlpR 6y ago
      Because it's not science. Spain has been wearing masks for months now, 99% of people comply and it gets only worse and worse. Both of our statements are anecdotes.
      - Kaze404 6y ago
        It literally is science in any possible definition you can come up for the word. Your anecdotes don't really matter.
    - DanBC 6y ago
      They are science, but they're not good evidence. A well run meta analysis of well run RCTs would be best, followed by well run RCTs. Anything else is science but weak evidence.
40four 6y ago
Statistical analysis from the South Carolina Department of Health. https://scdhec.gov/news-releases/dhecs-third-data-analysis-mask-ordinances-continues-show-effectiveness-masks-latest https://scdhec.gov/news-releases/dhecs-third-data-analysis-m... https://scdhec.gov/news-releases/update-mask-requirement-data-reinforces-masks-work-neck-gaiters-not-effective-latest https://scdhec.gov/news-releases/update-mask-requirement-dat...

thawaway1837 6y ago

There’s more studies than controlled ones. Sociological studies strongly suggest that masks do work. For example, there was a recent study that compared COVID hospitalization rates of districts in Tennessee that had mask mandates vs those which didn’t and the areas with mask mandates had significantly lower disease spread.

DanBC 6y ago
To be clear: you're saying that we don't see any benefit with rigorous science. We only see the benefit when we drop our standards of evidence.
- Kaze404 6y ago
  How are sociological studies any less scientifical? Is the human behavior something not worth studying?
  - ThomPete 6y ago
    It is but with 70% being non-reproducible we should be careful what we conclude. Humans are not robots. Lots and lots of factors in play. I have worn mask since march and have no problem with doing so, I believe they help curve some, but scientific rigor not clickbaity politicized headlines on NYT is what is needed here.
  - 9HZZRfNlpR 6y ago
    Because it's not science. Spain has been wearing masks for months now, 99% of people comply and it gets only worse and worse. Both of our statements are anecdotes.
    - Kaze404 6y ago
      It literally is science in any possible definition you can come up for the word. Your anecdotes don't really matter.
  - DanBC 6y ago
    They are science, but they're not good evidence. A well run meta analysis of well run RCTs would be best, followed by well run RCTs. Anything else is science but weak evidence.

40four 6y ago

Statistical analysis from the South Carolina Department of Health. https://scdhec.gov/news-releases/dhecs-third-data-analysis-mask-ordinances-continues-show-effectiveness-masks-latest https://scdhec.gov/news-releases/dhecs-third-data-analysis-m... https://scdhec.gov/news-releases/update-mask-requirement-data-reinforces-masks-work-neck-gaiters-not-effective-latest https://scdhec.gov/news-releases/update-mask-requirement-dat...