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> I've never heard of somebody > getting mocked at work ... > getting paid less ... I have! I was the lowest paid member of my team, yet a subject matter ex

> I've never heard of somebody > getting mocked at work ... > getting paid less ... I have! I was the lowest paid member of my team, yet a subject matter expert who the rest of the team frequently sought advice on a plethora of issues. But because I turned up 10-15 minutes late most days (I woke up 30-40 minutes prior) I was considered to be "lacking" in performance reviews. My bonus and my wage was tied to those performance reviews. I'm not going to argue it was the sole reason (it wasn't), but it definitely was a factor. Also there were a lot of jokes made about my time keeping in a large open plan office. Which was.... Uncomfortable. Have I ever been beaten for turning up late? No. Has someone somewhere in the world, in the last year, been beaten for not showing up to work on time? I'd probably bet £10 on that one. Edit... just to clarify, I don't agree with the original parent comment's comparisons to sexuality etc. But I also appreciate that sleep issues are a problem in our society that we are yet to deal with.

znpy 6y ago
> just to clarify, I don't agree with the original parent comment's comparisons to sexuality etc. I have second hand experience (one of my relatives) about being dismissed for being a woman. Anectodal example (this was in the late '70s / early '80s iirc): she was taking an exam at the university (engineering faculty) and she was told that she taking exam was nice and everything but women are really supposed to stay at home and knit socks. You see, that's the point. Yeah you might have been considered "lacking" and by your own admisson being late wasn't the only reason. It's a bummer, okay. But can you, in all honesty, compare that to seeing your studies, your work or your job application or your opinion being dismissed because of your biological sex? Really?
- dijksterhuis 6y ago
  > But can you, in all honesty, compare that to seeing your studies, your work or your job application or your opinion being dismissed because of your biological sex? Really? > just to clarify, I don't agree with the original parent comment's comparisons to sexuality etc. I already said that, no, I don't think it is a fair comparison. > It's a bummer, okay. It's a bit more than that. But its less than centuries of discrimination and oppression. Like I said, I think this is a problem society is yet to deal with. I never said it was an urgent top of the to-do list priority.

znpy 6y ago

> just to clarify, I don't agree with the original parent comment's comparisons to sexuality etc. I have second hand experience (one of my relatives) about being dismissed for being a woman. Anectodal example (this was in the late '70s / early '80s iirc): she was taking an exam at the university (engineering faculty) and she was told that she taking exam was nice and everything but women are really supposed to stay at home and knit socks. You see, that's the point. Yeah you might have been considered "lacking" and by your own admisson being late wasn't the only reason. It's a bummer, okay. But can you, in all honesty, compare that to seeing your studies, your work or your job application or your opinion being dismissed because of your biological sex? Really?

dijksterhuis 6y ago
> But can you, in all honesty, compare that to seeing your studies, your work or your job application or your opinion being dismissed because of your biological sex? Really? > just to clarify, I don't agree with the original parent comment's comparisons to sexuality etc. I already said that, no, I don't think it is a fair comparison. > It's a bummer, okay. It's a bit more than that. But its less than centuries of discrimination and oppression. Like I said, I think this is a problem society is yet to deal with. I never said it was an urgent top of the to-do list priority.