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This article has a very city-centric view. Rural communities, and farming very much prefer having DST. Every time removing DST has been postulated in the UK, i

This article has a very city-centric view. Rural communities, and farming very much prefer having DST. Every time removing DST has been postulated in the UK, it is the rural areas that object the most.

loloquwowndueo 6y ago
Citation needed.
watt 6y ago
They can decide to start waking up an hour earlier or later without forcing everyone else to change their clocks.
- nostrademons 6y ago
  Also don't need to have clocks at all, which was an industrial-age invention. The concept of standardized time and hour-long timezones dates from the mid-1800s, and was a construct of the railways (which needed to publish schedules that'd be valid across long distances). Before then each village or region had its own time. https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/invention-of-standard-time-feature https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/invention-...
  - nogabebop23 6y ago
    Do you think agriculture hasn't moved into a post-industrial age? Modern farms are tightly integrated into a global supply chain from imputs to product and definitely need to work on the same standardized schedule as the rest of the world.
    - chowned 6y ago
      I still don't understand how the wall clock prevents them from getting up an hour earlier or later.
por0 6y ago
Can you back it up??? And Farms can just change their daily routine regardless of the watch. They could in fact do it whenever they want. Imagine that huh
beauzero 6y ago
No we don't. Farming gets done in the dark no matter what in the winter. It's a pain to adjust to banking hour, machine shop hours, etc. Just set it and leave it.
randomdata 6y ago
As a grain farmer I cannot imagine what kind of farmer is worried about the wall clock. For us, the only thing that determines if we work or not is the weather. Maybe the only advantage I have noticed is that the parts dealership is open an hour later if we have a breakdown. However, we're also not yet done for the year and won't be before we go back to standard time, so that falls apart for our late season work anyway. Further, if the UK is anything like my country, only ~2% of the population are farmers, so even if they did all object the 98% wouldn't care and move forward anyway.
- nogabebop23 6y ago
  >> Only ~2% of the population are farmers, so even if they did all object the 98% wouldn't care and move forward anyway. In Canada I think it's about 3% but they are a Very vocal political group and punch beyond their absolute numbers.
  - Google234 6y ago
    They also could also stop the entire food supply for the country if they choose to.

loloquwowndueo 6y ago

Citation needed.

watt 6y ago

They can decide to start waking up an hour earlier or later without forcing everyone else to change their clocks.

nostrademons 6y ago
Also don't need to have clocks at all, which was an industrial-age invention. The concept of standardized time and hour-long timezones dates from the mid-1800s, and was a construct of the railways (which needed to publish schedules that'd be valid across long distances). Before then each village or region had its own time. https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/invention-of-standard-time-feature https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/invention-...
- nogabebop23 6y ago
  Do you think agriculture hasn't moved into a post-industrial age? Modern farms are tightly integrated into a global supply chain from imputs to product and definitely need to work on the same standardized schedule as the rest of the world.
  - chowned 6y ago
    I still don't understand how the wall clock prevents them from getting up an hour earlier or later.

por0 6y ago

Can you back it up??? And Farms can just change their daily routine regardless of the watch. They could in fact do it whenever they want. Imagine that huh

beauzero 6y ago

No we don't. Farming gets done in the dark no matter what in the winter. It's a pain to adjust to banking hour, machine shop hours, etc. Just set it and leave it.

randomdata 6y ago

As a grain farmer I cannot imagine what kind of farmer is worried about the wall clock. For us, the only thing that determines if we work or not is the weather. Maybe the only advantage I have noticed is that the parts dealership is open an hour later if we have a breakdown. However, we're also not yet done for the year and won't be before we go back to standard time, so that falls apart for our late season work anyway. Further, if the UK is anything like my country, only ~2% of the population are farmers, so even if they did all object the 98% wouldn't care and move forward anyway.

nogabebop23 6y ago
>> Only ~2% of the population are farmers, so even if they did all object the 98% wouldn't care and move forward anyway. In Canada I think it's about 3% but they are a Very vocal political group and punch beyond their absolute numbers.
- Google234 6y ago
  They also could also stop the entire food supply for the country if they choose to.