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I think I get less interested in self-driving cars the closer we seem to get to them. It honestly just stresses me out. Driving is something I enjoy doing. I’m

by cmckn 6y ago

I think I get less interested in self-driving cars the closer we seem to get to them. It honestly just stresses me out. Driving is something I enjoy doing. I’m not sure I will ever feel comfortable taking my hands off the wheel. This has little to do with how well the tech works in tests or anecdotally; I think I just don’t want this.

agumonkey 6y ago
For dense urban areas (low speed, lots of stopping) I could see waymo tiny wheelhubs working. A tiny taxi bubble.
- cmckn 6y ago
  I agree. I think I’d feel differently if the vehicles were more like trains on a track, if the roads had some added features that guided the vehicle. I just don’t think I’m down with the autonomous approach where the car is trying to make all the decisions I do.
toast0 6y ago
I'm a staunch grumpy old man, but our minivan has lane keeping, automated emergency braking and radar cruise control. The lane keeping and emergency braking are just there and mostly help out (although, apparently I like to drive on the line when exiting a freeway, so it's kind of annoying there). Radar cruise would be nice, except I don't do much long distance driving, and I don't like the following distance options, a different car might give different options that would be better. I wouldn't like to be in a car that drives like either the Tesla or the Waymo cars though, the Tesla's are too aggresive, and the Waymo cars are not aggressive enough (which is generally good and safety aware, but would still be frustrating to ride in).
rsynnott 6y ago
> I think I get less interested in self-driving cars the closer we seem to get to them. It honestly just stresses me out. That's probably a reasonable response. These things have the nasty feature that they both require less input from the driver the more sophisticated they get, but also that they require more _attention_ from the driver the more sophisticated they get (a boring old cruise control system won't abruptly swerve into a concrete road divider, but a high Level 2 system will). And humans just don't work like this. "Don't do anything, but be ready to take control within a second or so when it does something insane" is not something we're good at.

by cmckn 6y ago

agumonkey 6y ago

For dense urban areas (low speed, lots of stopping) I could see waymo tiny wheelhubs working. A tiny taxi bubble.

cmckn 6y ago
I agree. I think I’d feel differently if the vehicles were more like trains on a track, if the roads had some added features that guided the vehicle. I just don’t think I’m down with the autonomous approach where the car is trying to make all the decisions I do.

toast0 6y ago

I'm a staunch grumpy old man, but our minivan has lane keeping, automated emergency braking and radar cruise control. The lane keeping and emergency braking are just there and mostly help out (although, apparently I like to drive on the line when exiting a freeway, so it's kind of annoying there). Radar cruise would be nice, except I don't do much long distance driving, and I don't like the following distance options, a different car might give different options that would be better. I wouldn't like to be in a car that drives like either the Tesla or the Waymo cars though, the Tesla's are too aggresive, and the Waymo cars are not aggressive enough (which is generally good and safety aware, but would still be frustrating to ride in).

rsynnott 6y ago

> I think I get less interested in self-driving cars the closer we seem to get to them. It honestly just stresses me out. That's probably a reasonable response. These things have the nasty feature that they both require less input from the driver the more sophisticated they get, but also that they require more _attention_ from the driver the more sophisticated they get (a boring old cruise control system won't abruptly swerve into a concrete road divider, but a high Level 2 system will). And humans just don't work like this. "Don't do anything, but be ready to take control within a second or so when it does something insane" is not something we're good at.