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Lots of people present their observations and opinions, but this problem is not hard, and the technically best solution is obvious - Debian curbs their ambition
by effie 6y ago
Lots of people present their observations and opinions, but this problem is not hard, and the technically best solution is obvious - Debian curbs their ambitions and just distribute the damn thing, with all the vendored stuff, as upstream intended.
Some Debian people don't like it. Users don't care, as long as they can apt install it.
- debianUserNew 6y agoDebian Uses care. Otherwise they would use any other distro. The good the about the distro fragmentation is precisely that, If debian curbs their ambitions then it is no longer debian, and those that prefer the debian way over ubuntu or fedora or arch would get screwed in the process. It’s fine to not like it and not use it, but I do like projects that keep their ways.
- effie 6y agoWell some may care, I agree with that. But Debian already changed its ways in controversial shift to systemd that leave many users disappointed - pragmatism and modernisation efforts prevailed over traditional ways of composability, stability and predictability. Why shouldn't this happen for the policy of packages as well? The Debian way is hitting its limits and is ripe for some updates. The amount of work needed to maintain foreign hard to comprehend software has to be curbed to make it manageable in the future. If enough people say "yeah lets package it as is and be done with it" why shouldn't Debian go that way? It is natural to change and adapt. Big software with fast release cadency is going to get even more complex and harder to package each release.