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They seems to me to be equivalent statements. Why would a country in Europe not be a nation in Europe?
by brnt 6y ago
They seems to me to be equivalent statements. Why would a country in Europe not be a nation in Europe?
- luckylion 6y agoTurkey isn't a country in Europe is what I'm trying to say. ~3% of Turkey is in Europe, the rest of it is in Asia (which gives Turkey its geopolitical importance), and it's political orientation has historically always been in Asia (which makes sense, given that the Turks didn't originate in Turkey, but conquered the area in the middle ages; they stem from central Asia). "Russia is a country in Europe" is similarly weird, even though ~25% of the land (including their two major cities, and ~75% of the population iirc) is in Europe and historically, Russia was much more involved in Europe than Turkey.
- brnt 6y agoIn Europe is in Europe, and as well in Asia. I don't think the fraction is very relevant. And if history is important, the Ottoman empire has a history very much involved with the rest of Europe.
- luckylion 6y agoThink of Venn Diagrams, only part of Turkey is part of Europe. There's overlap, but one isn't inside the other. Turkey is, like Russia, considered a transcontinental country. They aren't "in" either continent, but part of them is. > And if history is important, the Ottoman empire has a history very much involved with the rest of Europe. As an adversary/attacker, yes. But that's not a reasonable foundation for declaring membership.