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> Sometimes I wonder how things would be if we had more than one hominid species in the world and I get trapped in fascinating hypothesis of all sorts. What fa

by disown 6y ago

> Sometimes I wonder how things would be if we had more than one hominid species in the world and I get trapped in fascinating hypothesis of all sorts. What fascinating hypothesis? Why not spell it out rather being so coy? Well we have different races of people. Why not work off that? It's not like we lack diversity amongst human. > Then I remember how we treat animals in general Oh I see now. It gets exhausting and boring to see everything twisted for the vegan agenda. You should see how we treat plants. Now that's horrifying. > it makes me think we'd be destined to have a dominating species making all others miserable 99.99% of animals killed on earth aren't killed by humans. Each day more animals are killed in nature than are killed by humans in a century. Most animals are made "miserable" by non-humans. I doubt you're losing sleep over that since you can't win virtue signaling points that way. > Just thinking out loud. We get it.

pachico 6y ago
I'm sorry your chose to pursue this as a personal attack and with such intensity but, nevertheless, and for the sake of those reading this with less animosity, allow me to reply. It strikes me as fascinating how societies would evolve and behave when different species could have and exchange different narratives. This a something not new, that has been exploited more than once in science fiction, precisely because the diversity between humans is not enough (many would argue that there are not human races) or simply not enough to be a scenario for picturing vastly different realities, or a playground for a different role playing. I won't reply to unfortunate comments about plants but allow me to tell you that not only vegans agree on many of the the things that have been said regarding the domination of a species above others. And yes, even among vegans there are debates about wellbeing/misfortunes of animals cause by other animals. As many other topics concerning ethics, it's open and, although science has helped much to set a path, much there is still to discuss. By discuss, however, I mean tolerant and well-intentioned exchange of thought, not cheap attempts of mocking perspectives you don't share.
- disown 6y ago
  > I'm sorry your chose to pursue this as a personal attack and with such intensity but, nevertheless, and for the sake of those reading this with less animosity, allow me to reply. Don't be sorry. Just stop hijacking threads for your vegan agenda. > It strikes me as fascinating how societies would evolve and behave when different species could have and exchange different narratives. This a something not new, that has been exploited more than once in science fiction, precisely because the diversity between humans is not enough (many would argue that there are not human races) or simply not enough to be a scenario for picturing vastly different realities, or a playground for a different role playing. I really can't make sense of what you are trying to say here. Did google translate mangle what you wrote? > I won't reply to unfortunate comments about plants Yeah, it's hard to confront the horrors of mass plant torture isn't it? All these innocent plants hopelessly stuck in the ground unable to run away or defend themselves. > By discuss, however, I mean tolerant and well-intentioned exchange of thought, not cheap attempts of mocking perspectives you don't share. What is cheap is turning a topic that has absolutely nothing to do with veganism into a vegan virtue signaling session. And I highly doubt you are interested in a "tolerant" and well-intentioned exchange of thought given the way you snuck toxic "veganism" into this thread. Your response made it absolutely clear that you aren't here for a "discussion" like most virtue signaling militant vegans.

by disown 6y ago

pachico 6y ago

I'm sorry your chose to pursue this as a personal attack and with such intensity but, nevertheless, and for the sake of those reading this with less animosity, allow me to reply. It strikes me as fascinating how societies would evolve and behave when different species could have and exchange different narratives. This a something not new, that has been exploited more than once in science fiction, precisely because the diversity between humans is not enough (many would argue that there are not human races) or simply not enough to be a scenario for picturing vastly different realities, or a playground for a different role playing. I won't reply to unfortunate comments about plants but allow me to tell you that not only vegans agree on many of the the things that have been said regarding the domination of a species above others. And yes, even among vegans there are debates about wellbeing/misfortunes of animals cause by other animals. As many other topics concerning ethics, it's open and, although science has helped much to set a path, much there is still to discuss. By discuss, however, I mean tolerant and well-intentioned exchange of thought, not cheap attempts of mocking perspectives you don't share.

disown 6y ago
> I'm sorry your chose to pursue this as a personal attack and with such intensity but, nevertheless, and for the sake of those reading this with less animosity, allow me to reply. Don't be sorry. Just stop hijacking threads for your vegan agenda. > It strikes me as fascinating how societies would evolve and behave when different species could have and exchange different narratives. This a something not new, that has been exploited more than once in science fiction, precisely because the diversity between humans is not enough (many would argue that there are not human races) or simply not enough to be a scenario for picturing vastly different realities, or a playground for a different role playing. I really can't make sense of what you are trying to say here. Did google translate mangle what you wrote? > I won't reply to unfortunate comments about plants Yeah, it's hard to confront the horrors of mass plant torture isn't it? All these innocent plants hopelessly stuck in the ground unable to run away or defend themselves. > By discuss, however, I mean tolerant and well-intentioned exchange of thought, not cheap attempts of mocking perspectives you don't share. What is cheap is turning a topic that has absolutely nothing to do with veganism into a vegan virtue signaling session. And I highly doubt you are interested in a "tolerant" and well-intentioned exchange of thought given the way you snuck toxic "veganism" into this thread. Your response made it absolutely clear that you aren't here for a "discussion" like most virtue signaling militant vegans.