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It seems to me that people overlook the benefit FSD brings to people with busy or long commutes. I like being able to relax and only focus on _intervening_ when

by ianmf 6y ago

It seems to me that people overlook the benefit FSD brings to people with busy or long commutes. I like being able to relax and only focus on _intervening_ when there is a lot of traffic on my 45 minutes commute from work. I don’t get home fatigue from the driving. Instead, I spend time doing the things I want to do, like play with my kids or work on my projects. To me it is worth the investment.

SwimSwimHungry 6y ago
Pretty sure the so-called Auto Pilot system that came earlier on with Tesla vehicles basically does all that you describe, just without the ridiculous pricetag of FSD... a system that still has a lot to prove and needs further development. Although Tesla is free to sell their half-baked beta add-on for whatever price, it feels reminiscent of the saying "A fool and his money are soon parted". Wake me up when this is out of beta and delivers on every promise with 99.999+% reliability.
dmitrygr 6y ago
> only focus on _intervening_ Sorry. Humans suck at this. Aviation psychologists proved this many times over, and the NTSB database is full of death from those who trusted automation, relaxed, and thought all they had to do was lightly supervise, and only focus on intervening. Humans suck at being dropped into a situation and having to make sense of it fast. If you're relaxed and paying any less attention than you would be if you were driving, you're already a more dangerous driver to all those around you and yourself.
gamblor956 6y ago
Three Tesla owners in the U.S. thought the same thing, and they all died relaxing while their car drove them into obstacles right in front of them that any other car or human driver would have easily seen. Tesla's FSD might be worth the investment one day. But it's definitely not right now. (Some drivers are reporting issues with FSD already; at least 3 near accidents in just the past 3 days https://arstechnica.com/cars/2020/10/tesla-is-now-beta-testing-self-driving-software-on-public-roads/ https://arstechnica.com/cars/2020/10/tesla-is-now-beta-testi...).

by ianmf 6y ago

SwimSwimHungry 6y ago

Pretty sure the so-called Auto Pilot system that came earlier on with Tesla vehicles basically does all that you describe, just without the ridiculous pricetag of FSD... a system that still has a lot to prove and needs further development. Although Tesla is free to sell their half-baked beta add-on for whatever price, it feels reminiscent of the saying "A fool and his money are soon parted". Wake me up when this is out of beta and delivers on every promise with 99.999+% reliability.

dmitrygr 6y ago

> only focus on _intervening_ Sorry. Humans suck at this. Aviation psychologists proved this many times over, and the NTSB database is full of death from those who trusted automation, relaxed, and thought all they had to do was lightly supervise, and only focus on intervening. Humans suck at being dropped into a situation and having to make sense of it fast. If you're relaxed and paying any less attention than you would be if you were driving, you're already a more dangerous driver to all those around you and yourself.

gamblor956 6y ago

Three Tesla owners in the U.S. thought the same thing, and they all died relaxing while their car drove them into obstacles right in front of them that any other car or human driver would have easily seen. Tesla's FSD might be worth the investment one day. But it's definitely not right now. (Some drivers are reporting issues with FSD already; at least 3 near accidents in just the past 3 days https://arstechnica.com/cars/2020/10/tesla-is-now-beta-testing-self-driving-software-on-public-roads/ https://arstechnica.com/cars/2020/10/tesla-is-now-beta-testi...).