3 ms·

I retract my use of the term "LGBT themed", that was too strong a description. However at the very least common sense tells us it would have had some reference

I retract my use of the term "LGBT themed", that was too strong a description. However at the very least common sense tells us it would have had some reference to the homosexual nature of the marriage (e.g. "Adam & Steve" written in icing) > On a scale of 1 to 10, how authoritarian was it when the government forced wedding planners, wedding reception venues, photographers, dessert shops etc to plan and serve custom wedding plans and events for interracial couples despite business owners claiming that their religions forbid race mixing? Do you have an actual example of this happening?

heavyset_go 6y ago
I'm on my phone, but here is a quote from the ACLU[1]: > Instances of institutions and individuals claiming a right to discriminate in the name of religion are not new. In the 1960s, we saw objections to laws requiring integration in restaurants because of sincerely held beliefs that God wanted the races to be separate. We saw religiously affiliated universities refuse to admit students who engaged in interracial dating. In those cases, we recognized that requiring integration was not about violating religious liberty; it was about ensuring fairness. It is no different today. This is a good write up about religion and Loving v. Virginia[2]. [1] https://www.aclu.org/issues/religious-liberty/using-religion-discriminate/ https://www.aclu.org/issues/religious-liberty/using-religion... [2] https://ir.lawnet.fordham.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=5513&context=flr https://ir.lawnet.fordham.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=55...
- googthrowaway42 6y ago
  I am aware we have these civil rights laws. I am asking if you can find a scenario where someone was forced to engage in creative work for someone under these laws. For example, someone forced to be a wedding photographer of an interracial wedding when they didn't want to.

heavyset_go 6y ago

I'm on my phone, but here is a quote from the ACLU[1]: > Instances of institutions and individuals claiming a right to discriminate in the name of religion are not new. In the 1960s, we saw objections to laws requiring integration in restaurants because of sincerely held beliefs that God wanted the races to be separate. We saw religiously affiliated universities refuse to admit students who engaged in interracial dating. In those cases, we recognized that requiring integration was not about violating religious liberty; it was about ensuring fairness. It is no different today. This is a good write up about religion and Loving v. Virginia[2]. [1] https://www.aclu.org/issues/religious-liberty/using-religion-discriminate/ https://www.aclu.org/issues/religious-liberty/using-religion... [2] https://ir.lawnet.fordham.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=5513&context=flr https://ir.lawnet.fordham.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=55...

googthrowaway42 6y ago
I am aware we have these civil rights laws. I am asking if you can find a scenario where someone was forced to engage in creative work for someone under these laws. For example, someone forced to be a wedding photographer of an interracial wedding when they didn't want to.