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Now do discrimination laws. I assume you’re for repealing all of those too?

shortformblog 6y ago
No, because those are laws, and those regulations exist for a reason. Sometimes the rule of law exists to create a norm. What is being argued for here is the removal of a norm—the ability of a private business to be associated with speech it doesn’t support—just because of the differences between the internet and the physical world.
- googthrowaway42 6y ago
  > No, because those are laws, and those regulations exist for a reason. Therefore you wouldn't see any problem with regulations or laws that restrict the rights of companies to enact this sort of policy that Mailchimp is.
  - shortformblog 6y ago
    No, because it’s an email provider and as someone who sends email, I know that if someone posts something spammy or offensive on their platform, I know it could negatively impact other customers, because email is based on an open, reputation-driven protocol. In other words, someone posting dangerous content could threaten my deliverability, even though I didn’t do anything. Therefore, if I purchase services from an email provider, I will want them to moderate it.
    - anonunivgrad 6y ago
      You can make the same argument in favor of allowing racial segregation. In fact, those exact arguments were made. We decided that having an open society was worth it. You also solve the coordination problem by making all businesses accept minority customers. Southern racists couldn’t boycott all businesses. Likewise, left wing activists can’t boycott you for allowing conservative speech if all of your competitors also have to allow it.
      - shortformblog 6y ago
        Conservatives currently dominate talk radio, cable TV news ratings, Facebook’s top 10 list of most read articles every week, the White House, and an entire chamber of Congress. Stop comparing conservative speech to people who were actually oppressed because a large number of people want to use services that have someone moderating the content. It’s offensive.
        anonunivgrad 6y ago
        Vocal conservatives get fired from their jobs in any well paying line of work. Conservative leaning stories are censored from all news outlets except those listened to exclusively by conservatives.
        shortformblog 6y ago
        I'm not letting my email deliverability suffer just because you have an unearned martyr complex.
        deleted 6y ago
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- mainstreem 6y ago
  Vice Presidential candidate Kamala Harris would like to end discrimination bans in California in order to enact the right kind of discriminatory guidelines: racial quotas! https://ballotpedia.org/California_Proposition_16,_Repeal_Proposition_209_Affirmative_Action_Amendment_(2020) https://ballotpedia.org/California_Proposition_16,_Repeal_Pr...

No, because those are laws, and those regulations exist for a reason. Sometimes the rule of law exists to create a norm. What is being argued for here is the removal of a norm—the ability of a private business to be associated with speech it doesn’t support—just because of the differences between the internet and the physical world.

googthrowaway42 6y ago
> No, because those are laws, and those regulations exist for a reason. Therefore you wouldn't see any problem with regulations or laws that restrict the rights of companies to enact this sort of policy that Mailchimp is.
- shortformblog 6y ago
  No, because it’s an email provider and as someone who sends email, I know that if someone posts something spammy or offensive on their platform, I know it could negatively impact other customers, because email is based on an open, reputation-driven protocol. In other words, someone posting dangerous content could threaten my deliverability, even though I didn’t do anything. Therefore, if I purchase services from an email provider, I will want them to moderate it.
  - anonunivgrad 6y ago
    You can make the same argument in favor of allowing racial segregation. In fact, those exact arguments were made. We decided that having an open society was worth it. You also solve the coordination problem by making all businesses accept minority customers. Southern racists couldn’t boycott all businesses. Likewise, left wing activists can’t boycott you for allowing conservative speech if all of your competitors also have to allow it.
    - shortformblog 6y ago
      Conservatives currently dominate talk radio, cable TV news ratings, Facebook’s top 10 list of most read articles every week, the White House, and an entire chamber of Congress. Stop comparing conservative speech to people who were actually oppressed because a large number of people want to use services that have someone moderating the content. It’s offensive.
      - anonunivgrad 6y ago
        Vocal conservatives get fired from their jobs in any well paying line of work. Conservative leaning stories are censored from all news outlets except those listened to exclusively by conservatives.
        shortformblog 6y ago
        I'm not letting my email deliverability suffer just because you have an unearned martyr complex.
        deleted 6y ago
        [deleted]
mainstreem 6y ago
Vice Presidential candidate Kamala Harris would like to end discrimination bans in California in order to enact the right kind of discriminatory guidelines: racial quotas! https://ballotpedia.org/California_Proposition_16,_Repeal_Proposition_209_Affirmative_Action_Amendment_(2020) https://ballotpedia.org/California_Proposition_16,_Repeal_Pr...